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Title: All my Stuff.
Post by: cjm721 on 4 January 2013, 09:28:17 PM
Since everyone seems to want to split up my stuff which none of you have any right to even though I am banned (I still have the ability to appeal).

All my items, money, village, and anything else I own now belongs to knitefall.

This includes everything from jmonstruo also.

FYI this should be $4,530,214.77 from just the balances then all of atlantis, narnia, nether-narnia, all atlantis arena areas. Knitefall knows where my chests are but there should not be many lockettes to remove anyways as most of my regions where myself and real life friends only.
Title: Re: All my Stuff.
Post by: knitefall on 4 January 2013, 09:30:54 PM
I want my 4.5 mill please
Title: Re: All my Stuff.
Post by: Aysun on 4 January 2013, 09:37:29 PM
No. :)
Title: Re: All my Stuff.
Post by: cjm721 on 4 January 2013, 09:37:59 PM
No. :)

Not yours, or your say.
Title: Re: All my Stuff.
Post by: knitefall on 4 January 2013, 09:38:30 PM
Can someone get Air on so I can collect my things
Title: Re: All my Stuff.
Post by: Aysun on 4 January 2013, 09:40:12 PM
I'm not sure that anyone who has been permabanned should have any right to "their" shit. It's the server's now.

An idea:

Charity.
Title: Re: All my Stuff.
Post by: knitefall on 4 January 2013, 09:41:15 PM
He is donating it... to me
Title: Re: All my Stuff.
Post by: Kovos_Datch on 4 January 2013, 09:41:34 PM
I'm not sure that anyone who has been permabanned should have any right to "their" shit. It's the server's now.

An idea:

Charity.

He has the right to appeal. No permaban is technically a permaban until the appeal is lost.
Title: Re: All my Stuff.
Post by: Aysun on 4 January 2013, 09:42:59 PM
Well since he's giving away all his stuff I assumed he wasn't going to appeal. The point remains.

This isn't like someone who is leaving the server and wishes to give away their stuff. CJ was banned for acts against the server. His property is not his any longer, it is VC's (and thus VC's to distribute as it is seen fit).
Title: Re: All my Stuff.
Post by: cjm721 on 4 January 2013, 09:43:31 PM
I'm not sure that anyone who has been permabanned should have any right to "their" shit. It's the server's now.

An idea:

Charity.

I can still apreal, but no real point, but you all have no real reason to divide it up. ZOMGITZsam was on for about 3 days and dig gave him 1mil and you have not split up his stuff, and I had mentioned before about just putting it all in gold in a chest somewhere and the decision was just to leave it be. Also Troll__ lost none of his stuff when banned.  So either way either it stays with my account or noone gets it by your stance then.
Title: Re: All my Stuff.
Post by: Aysun on 4 January 2013, 09:44:15 PM
I'm not sure that anyone who has been permabanned should have any right to "their" shit. It's the server's now.

An idea:

Charity.

I can still apreal, but no real point, but you all have no real reason to divide it up. ZOMGITZsam was on for about 3 days and dig gave him 1mil and you have not split up his stuff, and I had mentioned before about just putting it all in gold in a chest somewhere and the decision was just to leave it be. Also Troll__ lost none of his stuff when banned.  So either way either it stays with my account or noone gets it by your stance then.

Then no one gets it.
Title: Re: All my Stuff.
Post by: Kovos_Datch on 4 January 2013, 09:45:07 PM
I'm not sure that anyone who has been permabanned should have any right to "their" shit. It's the server's now.

An idea:

Charity.

I can still apreal, but no real point, but you all have no real reason to divide it up. ZOMGITZsam was on for about 3 days and dig gave him 1mil and you have not split up his stuff, and I had mentioned before about just putting it all in gold in a chest somewhere and the decision was just to leave it be. Also Troll__ lost none of his stuff when banned.  So either way either it stays with my account or noone gets it by your stance then.

I agree. I don't think anyone should divide it up... but I also don't think Cj has the right to give it away if he is no longer a player
Title: Re: All my Stuff.
Post by: cjm721 on 4 January 2013, 09:45:28 PM
I'm not sure that anyone who has been permabanned should have any right to "their" shit. It's the server's now.

An idea:

Charity.

I can still apreal, but no real point, but you all have no real reason to divide it up. ZOMGITZsam was on for about 3 days and dig gave him 1mil and you have not split up his stuff, and I had mentioned before about just putting it all in gold in a chest somewhere and the decision was just to leave it be. Also Troll__ lost none of his stuff when banned.  So either way either it stays with my account or noone gets it by your stance then.

Then no one gets it.

Then Everything stays as a frozen state.
Title: Re: All my Stuff.
Post by: Aysun on 4 January 2013, 09:46:19 PM
I'm not sure that anyone who has been permabanned should have any right to "their" shit. It's the server's now.

An idea:

Charity.

I can still apreal, but no real point, but you all have no real reason to divide it up. ZOMGITZsam was on for about 3 days and dig gave him 1mil and you have not split up his stuff, and I had mentioned before about just putting it all in gold in a chest somewhere and the decision was just to leave it be. Also Troll__ lost none of his stuff when banned.  So either way either it stays with my account or noone gets it by your stance then.

Then no one gets it.

Then Everything stays as a frozen state.

Until someone finds your stuff and you've been gone 2 months, yes.
Title: Re: All my Stuff.
Post by: cjm721 on 4 January 2013, 09:47:18 PM
I'm not sure that anyone who has been permabanned should have any right to "their" shit. It's the server's now.

An idea:

Charity.

I can still apreal, but no real point, but you all have no real reason to divide it up. ZOMGITZsam was on for about 3 days and dig gave him 1mil and you have not split up his stuff, and I had mentioned before about just putting it all in gold in a chest somewhere and the decision was just to leave it be. Also Troll__ lost none of his stuff when banned.  So either way either it stays with my account or noone gets it by your stance then.

Then no one gets it.

Then Everything stays as a frozen state.

Until someone finds your stuff and you've been gone 2 months, yes.

In a village. so they can't get it. Look around at some villages 7+months and not touched.
Title: Re: All my Stuff.
Post by: Aysun on 4 January 2013, 09:48:44 PM
After 2 months it's abandoned (if you're the owner of said village and haven't been on) and can be sold.
Title: Re: All my Stuff.
Post by: Airbongo on 4 January 2013, 09:49:40 PM
I honestly don't have any problems with Knite getting it. It is a shitload of stuff (villages and money) and I don't think it should be frozen. When Rainy got banned, the server didn't keep the stuff and Cay kept some of it because Rainy gave it to her. I am gonna ask Ako but I think Knite should at least get the money.
Title: Re: All my Stuff.
Post by: cjm721 on 4 January 2013, 09:50:21 PM
After 2 months it's abandoned (if you're the owner of said village and haven't been on) and can be sold.

Well there are plenty of 7+ month villages people have wanted to buy and it was not allowed so no even after 2 months.
Title: Re: All my Stuff.
Post by: cjm721 on 4 January 2013, 09:53:38 PM
After 2 months it's abandoned (if you're the owner of said village and haven't been on) and can be sold.

Also fuzzycotton is still a member of atlantis so if it does not go to knite it would go to him.
Title: Re: All my Stuff.
Post by: Aysun on 4 January 2013, 09:54:22 PM
After 2 months it's abandoned (if you're the owner of said village and haven't been on) and can be sold.

Also fuzzycotton is still a member of atlantis so if it does not go to knite it would go to him.

fuzzycotton hasn't been online in a month and 3 days.
Title: Re: All my Stuff.
Post by: Aysun on 4 January 2013, 09:55:35 PM
The POINT I am trying to make is that you are not a member of the server any longer and I think you should not have any right to say where your stuff/money goes. I'd be happier to see it frozen.
Title: Re: All my Stuff.
Post by: SirLogiC on 4 January 2013, 09:56:26 PM
So I am usually bad at picking up on social politics, and I really don't know what's going on with this.

Here are some things that are clear to me though:

Server quality has degraded since CJ stopped being a server admin.
Some admins and moderators abuse their power, air is the biggest offender.
There has been a disagreement between Cj and some other admins or something (I am guessing air again).
The attitudes of those involved are getting worse

So guys really just let go of your proverbial dicks and calm down. As they say don't burn your bridges.

Cj you are/were a good mod, but dude you gotta calm down a bit, stop being belligerent. Admins you gotta stop provoking him. Just let him have what may be his last wish, don't be so petty about it.

All this childish bickering is making me enjoy this server less and that does concern me.
Title: Re: All my Stuff.
Post by: cjm721 on 4 January 2013, 09:57:10 PM
After 2 months it's abandoned (if you're the owner of said village and haven't been on) and can be sold.

Also fuzzycotton is still a member of atlantis so if it does not go to knite it would go to him.

fuzzycotton hasn't been online in a month and 3 days.

Well considering I seem him almost every day that would not be hard to change.

Also to sir the only part you see of my getting pissed off is about watching I server I played on and help for quite a while fall apart.
Title: Re: All my Stuff.
Post by: Airbongo on 4 January 2013, 09:59:26 PM
So I am usually bad at picking up on social politics, and I really don't know what's going on with this.

Here are some things that are clear to me though:

Server quality has degraded since CJ stopped being a server admin.
Some admins and moderators abuse their power, air is the biggest offender.
There has been a disagreement between Cj and some other admins or something (I am guessing air again).
The attitudes of those involved are getting worse

So guys really just let go of your proverbial dicks and calm down. As they say don't burn your bridges.

Cj you are/were a good mod, but dude you gotta calm down a bit, stop being belligerent. Admins you gotta stop provoking him. Just let him have what may be his last wish, don't be so petty about it.

All this childish bickering is making me enjoy this server less and that does concern me.

The fuck? List instances of me being "the biggest offender" and of the admins and mods abusing their power.
Title: Re: All my Stuff.
Post by: Aysun on 4 January 2013, 10:01:37 PM
So I am usually bad at picking up on social politics, and I really don't know what's going on with this.

Here are some things that are clear to me though:

Server quality has degraded since CJ stopped being a server admin.
Some admins and moderators abuse their power, air is the biggest offender.
There has been a disagreement between Cj and some other admins or something (I am guessing air again).
The attitudes of those involved are getting worse

So guys really just let go of your proverbial dicks and calm down. As they say don't burn your bridges.

Cj you are/were a good mod, but dude you gotta calm down a bit, stop being belligerent. Admins you gotta stop provoking him. Just let him have what may be his last wish, don't be so petty about it.

All this childish bickering is making me enjoy this server less and that does concern me.


Fact Check:
Server "quality" as in lag/etc? That's due to us being pushed to update to 1.4.6, several of the plugins are still not stable. Other than that, same people are playing, and enjoying themselves on the server.

Abuse of power has been reported but once the situation is looked at it has been cleared.

The disagreement is due to the vast betrayal of trust that CJ did to the other admins/mods.

Our attitudes are worse because we've been harassed by CJ ever since he was removed from staff, finally to the point of banning him.
Title: Re: All my Stuff.
Post by: Airbongo on 4 January 2013, 10:05:28 PM
So I am usually bad at picking up on social politics, and I really don't know what's going on with this.

Here are some things that are clear to me though:

Server quality has degraded since CJ stopped being a server admin.
Some admins and moderators abuse their power, air is the biggest offender.
There has been a disagreement between Cj and some other admins or something (I am guessing air again).
The attitudes of those involved are getting worse

So guys really just let go of your proverbial dicks and calm down. As they say don't burn your bridges.

Cj you are/were a good mod, but dude you gotta calm down a bit, stop being belligerent. Admins you gotta stop provoking him. Just let him have what may be his last wish, don't be so petty about it.

All this childish bickering is making me enjoy this server less and that does concern me.

Ok, I want you to give examples of the staff abusing their power and of me BEING the biggest offender.

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There has been a disagreement between Cj and some other admins or something (I am guessing air again).
The attitudes of those involved are getting worse

That is just not true, I tried to distance myself from the case since the problem with CJ started so please don't assume if you don't know shit about it.
Title: Re: All my Stuff.
Post by: cjm721 on 4 January 2013, 10:14:17 PM
So I am usually bad at picking up on social politics, and I really don't know what's going on with this.

Here are some things that are clear to me though:

Server quality has degraded since CJ stopped being a server admin.
Some admins and moderators abuse their power, air is the biggest offender.
There has been a disagreement between Cj and some other admins or something (I am guessing air again).
The attitudes of those involved are getting worse

So guys really just let go of your proverbial dicks and calm down. As they say don't burn your bridges.

Cj you are/were a good mod, but dude you gotta calm down a bit, stop being belligerent. Admins you gotta stop provoking him. Just let him have what may be his last wish, don't be so petty about it.

All this childish bickering is making me enjoy this server less and that does concern me.


Fact Check:
Server "quality" as in lag/etc? That's due to us being pushed to update to 1.4.6, several of the plugins are still not stable. Other than that, same people are playing, and enjoying themselves on the server.

Abuse of power has been reported but once the situation is looked at it has been cleared.

The disagreement is due to the vast betrayal of trust that CJ did to the other admins/mods.

Our attitudes are worse because we've been harassed by CJ ever since he was removed from staff, finally to the point of banning him.

Why you update to 1.4.6? We always use to wait.

Also that vast betrayal of trust because I put a way for me to still help the server in case something did happen like the server getting hacked again (which has not happened since I took over the back end btw).

Also just because I was no longer on staff does not mean I don't know what was right and wrong for you to do. So instead of before where I went to the staff member I went public because I was just being disregarded when I directly talked. So how would you feel if something you helped a ton and set up watching the rules we set for ourselves to protect the longevity of the server be broken.
Title: Re: All my Stuff.
Post by: Aysun on 4 January 2013, 10:18:20 PM
So I am usually bad at picking up on social politics, and I really don't know what's going on with this.

Here are some things that are clear to me though:

Server quality has degraded since CJ stopped being a server admin.
Some admins and moderators abuse their power, air is the biggest offender.
There has been a disagreement between Cj and some other admins or something (I am guessing air again).
The attitudes of those involved are getting worse

So guys really just let go of your proverbial dicks and calm down. As they say don't burn your bridges.

Cj you are/were a good mod, but dude you gotta calm down a bit, stop being belligerent. Admins you gotta stop provoking him. Just let him have what may be his last wish, don't be so petty about it.

All this childish bickering is making me enjoy this server less and that does concern me.


Fact Check:
Server "quality" as in lag/etc? That's due to us being pushed to update to 1.4.6, several of the plugins are still not stable. Other than that, same people are playing, and enjoying themselves on the server.

Abuse of power has been reported but once the situation is looked at it has been cleared.

The disagreement is due to the vast betrayal of trust that CJ did to the other admins/mods.

Our attitudes are worse because we've been harassed by CJ ever since he was removed from staff, finally to the point of banning him.

Why you update to 1.4.6? We always use to wait.

Also that vast betrayal of trust because I put a way for me to still help the server in case something did happen like the server getting hacked again (which has not happened since I took over the back end btw).

Also just because I was no longer on staff does not mean I don't know what was right and wrong for you to do. So instead of before where I went to the staff member I went public because I was just being disregarded when I directly talked. So how would you feel if something you helped a ton and set up watching the rules we set for ourselves to protect the longevity of the server be broken.

We updated to 1.4.6 because if we hadn't we'd still be waiting. Instead, we listened to the PLAYERS who wanted the update and have got it running (and quite well lately).

No one is disregarding what you did do for the good of the server. However, what you did for YOURSELF was the problem. The server is doing just fine.

Now, this thread has gone completely off topic. I'm going to await Ako's decision.
Title: Re: All my Stuff.
Post by: Airbongo on 4 January 2013, 10:23:35 PM
I am waiting for Sirlogic to give me some evidence to backup his comment...
Title: Re: All my Stuff.
Post by: SirLogiC on 4 January 2013, 11:32:52 PM
I won't derail thread, making a new post in grievances forum.
Title: Re: All my Stuff.
Post by: Airbongo on 4 January 2013, 11:37:34 PM
I won't derail thread, making a new post in grievances forum.

Lovely.
Title: Re: All my Stuff.
Post by: JANUARYJONES on 5 January 2013, 01:15:44 AM
Also that vast betrayal of trust because I put a way for me to still help the server in case something did happen like the server getting hacked again (which has not happened since I took over the back end btw).

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Title: Re: All my Stuff.
Post by: cjm721 on 5 January 2013, 04:50:54 AM
After 2 months it's abandoned (if you're the owner of said village and haven't been on) and can be sold.

Also fuzzycotton is still a member of atlantis so if it does not go to knite it would go to him.

fuzzycotton hasn't been online in a month and 3 days.

Fuzzy logged in today now also.
Title: Re: All my Stuff.
Post by: knitefall on 6 January 2013, 03:11:47 AM
This has been resolved, and I have gained everything
Title: Re: All my Stuff.
Post by: Fuzzy_Yeti_69 on 6 January 2013, 05:42:07 AM
This has been resolved, and I have gained everything

Now you can be an even BIGGER douchebag that's bigheaded!
Title: Re: All my Stuff.
Post by: LittleHorseDaisy on 30 January 2013, 01:58:55 PM
hmmmm how did this turn into a debate 8)
Title: Re: All my Stuff.
Post by: Aysun on 30 January 2013, 02:10:42 PM
hmmmm how did this turn into a debate 8)

Hmm y u necrobump..?
Title: Re: All my Stuff.
Post by: Airbongo on 30 January 2013, 03:15:37 PM
hmmmm how did this turn into a debate 8)

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Title: Re: All my Stuff.
Post by: TheCatsMangler on 30 January 2013, 04:36:07 PM
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Also to sir the only part you see of my getting pissed off is about watching I server I played on and help for quite a while fall apart.

Dude, the server is not dying or going to die for A VERY LONG TIME, I don't care what happens, I'm not leaving nor am I letting it die and I will do what ever I can to stop it from dying, so if you want it dead or try to make it dead, you will have a hard time trying get through me first.