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Title: What do you hate the most?
Post by: Light_Blue_Man1 on 31 May 2013, 07:52:25 AM
For me It's people who lie!
What do you hate the most?
~Bluey
Title: Re: What do you hate the most?
Post by: ChaosMushrooms on 31 May 2013, 08:28:49 AM
One Direction/ Beiber
Title: Re: What do you hate the most?
Post by: xxbabygirlstar on 31 May 2013, 09:15:39 AM
I can't really think of anything I "hate"... I try to reserve an intense feeling like that for something that deserves it.
I do extremely dislike trolls. Especially the kind that like, troll and harass people with things like "you should just kill yourself." It's like, "grow the fuck up!"
Title: Re: What do you hate the most?
Post by: TheCatsMangler on 31 May 2013, 09:27:36 AM
You are agreeing with what I said or you are calling my statement ignorant..?
im agreeing with what you said
:'D
Title: Re: What do you hate the most?
Post by: SirLogiC on 1 June 2013, 12:42:13 AM
I hate r4pe, people forced to take drugs to become addicts, or similar acts that violate personal liberty in that fashion. I hate unjustness. There are still parts of the world where women have no rights, where if a woman is r4ped it is her fault and she gets put in prison, where people with money can (sometimes literally) get away with murder while "not-rich" people get put away for life for having a joint on them. I hate the bad drugs for how they can destroy minds, and then lives. I hate.... oh wait...
Yeah I hate when you drink from the milk carton and you do it wrong and some drips down your shirt. That is so annoying.
Title: Re: What do you hate the most?
Post by: Airbongo on 1 June 2013, 01:09:46 AM
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There are still parts of the world where women have no rights, where if a woman is r4ped it is her fault and she gets put in prison
Religion
Title: Re: What do you hate the most?
Post by: xxbabygirlstar on 1 June 2013, 01:17:25 AM
There are still parts of the world where women have no rights, where if a woman is r4ped it is her fault and she gets put in prison
Religion
Enough.
? I'm not even talking about Christianity...I don't see how am I being offensive. Is anyone here a member of Islam?
It's not about religion. Religion is just an excuse. Religion isn't some divine truths that you believe in or don't, it's a human invention. Atheism is a human invention too. You can believe all you want but as long as you use those beliefs to an end that isn't good then it isn't the beliefs fault but your own. Don't look down on people because they believe in something, you believe in atheism. I tend to support the views of Buddhism, though I wouldn't call myself Buddhist just yet. Buddhism is also an atheist religion.
The atheist stuff you link is kinda funny but you are acting just as closed minded and bigoted as the religious people you are mocking.
The only wrong most religions actively do is discouraging the search for knowledge, I don't think religion and knowledge are incompatible.
Title: Re: What do you hate the most?
Post by: knitefall on 1 June 2013, 02:12:13 AM
It's not about religion. Religion is just an excuse. Religion isn't some divine truths that you believe in or don't, it's a human invention. Atheism is a human invention too. You can believe all you want but as long as you use those beliefs to an end that isn't good then it isn't the beliefs fault but your own. Don't look down on people because they believe in something, you believe in atheism. I tend to support the views of Buddhism, though I wouldn't call myself Buddhist just yet. Buddhism is also an atheist religion.
The atheist stuff you link is kinda funny but you are acting just as closed minded and bigoted as the religious people you are mocking.
The only wrong most religions actively do is discouraging the search for knowledge, I don't think religion and knowledge are incompatible.
That and you're kinda acting like a dick
Title: Re: What do you hate the most?
Post by: Airbongo on 1 June 2013, 03:16:35 AM
There are still parts of the world where women have no rights, where if a woman is r4ped it is her fault and she gets put in prison
Religion
Enough.
? I'm not even talking about Christianity...I don't see how am I being offensive. Is anyone here a member of Islam?
It's not about religion. Religion is just an excuse. Religion isn't some divine truths that you believe in or don't, it's a human invention. Atheism is a human invention too. You can believe all you want but as long as you use those beliefs to an end that isn't good then it isn't the beliefs fault but your own. Don't look down on people because they believe in something, you believe in atheism. I tend to support the views of Buddhism, though I wouldn't call myself Buddhist just yet. Buddhism is also an atheist religion.
The atheist stuff you link is kinda funny but you are acting just as closed minded and bigoted as the religious people you are mocking.
The only wrong most religions actively do is discouraging the search for knowledge, I don't think religion and knowledge are incompatible.
"It's not about religion. Religion is just an excuse. " Yes, an excuse used to control the masses. I don't believe in atheism because atheism is simply the lack of beliefs...you can't believe in atheism. How am I acting close minded and bigoted when all I do is ridicule religion with FACTS? Want to get serious? Fine, let's get serious about religion.
"The only wrong most religions actively do is discouraging the search for knowledge, I don't think religion and knowledge are incompatible." So not true. Religions not only discourage the search for knowledge, religions discriminate against homosexuals, against people of other religions, against ATHEISTS... Religion causes death. You can't just forget about the Crusades, the Inquisition, ALL the wars motivated by religion. All the women getting acid thrown on their faces simply because they want to go to school.
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Religion is just an excuse
Yeah...let's see. This shit is still happening. This is not history, still going on today.
- All the Islamic Fundamentalists blowing themselves up. They don't think "Religion is just an excuse.". Religion IS what they live for and they genuinely believe that they will get 72 virgins when they blow dozens of innocent people to shit. - African Christians in shit-hole corners of Africa that still burn people alive because they suspect them of witchcraft. Do you know who evangelized them? European Christians - The mutual genocide of Tutsis and Hutus in Rwanda. Motivated by religion and race. - Christians still getting murdered in Sudan, simply because they are Christians. - ALL the countless genocides in the name of religion committed in Africa.
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I don't think religion and knowledge are incompatible.
And I agree. Too bad religion continues to deny completely proven theories like Evolution. Lets take Christians as an example; Most of them deny Evolution. They don't even know what Evolution is and they deny it because they are ignorant of it and it completely disproves the Book of Genesis. Most Christians think that "we descended from apes" and their main argument is "if we descended from apes, why do we still have apes". That is a complete fallacy! We did NOT descend from apes, we are cousins of the apes and we share common ancestors with them.
It's stuff like this that is wrong about religion. I am gonna embed a Youtube video. 11 minutes long. It is mainly about Catholicism/Christianity but it applies to other religions...just watch it ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
My main problem with religion is the blind worship of it. Most people don't even bother investigating about their religion, reading their holy book, questioning their reality. They are taught not to by the society that surrounds them. You can all call me a bigot, a dick and an insensitive asshole but the truth is; religion is not immune to criticism. I am not insulting the individual, I am ridiculing their beliefs and I welcome anyone to ridicule my lack of beliefs.
Title: Re: What do you hate the most?
Post by: Airbongo on 1 June 2013, 03:22:20 AM
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I tend to support the views of Buddhism, though I wouldn't call myself Buddhist just yet. Buddhism is also an atheist religion.
I respect Buddhism a lot. I don't hate all religions.
Title: Re: What do you hate the most?
Post by: knitefall on 1 June 2013, 03:28:12 AM
I hate religion and the complete ignorance behind it.
You seem to be flipping sides
Don't nit-pick, it makes you look stupid. I hate the idea of religion, I never said "I hate all religions". But yeaaaah, if that's all you got out of the wall of text I wrote...that's cool
Title: Re: What do you hate the most?
Post by: ChaosMushrooms on 1 June 2013, 07:58:48 AM
This religion is getting out of hand, Santa is real, end of.
Title: Re: What do you hate the most?
Post by: xxbabygirlstar on 1 June 2013, 10:04:50 AM
It's not about religion. Religion is just an excuse. Religion isn't some divine truths that you believe in or don't, it's a human invention. Atheism is a human invention too. You can believe all you want but as long as you use those beliefs to an end that isn't good then it isn't the beliefs fault but your own. Don't look down on people because they believe in something, you believe in atheism. I tend to support the views of Buddhism, though I wouldn't call myself Buddhist just yet. Buddhism is also an atheist religion.
The atheist stuff you link is kinda funny but you are acting just as closed minded and bigoted as the religious people you are mocking.
The only wrong most religions actively do is discouraging the search for knowledge, I don't think religion and knowledge are incompatible.
Wow, never did I think anyone else would actually speak up about this. Kinda figured I'd just fade out as the outspoken Christian, deemed to be overly sensitive when someone blatantly attacks something I believe in and then doesn't show much concern when I'm offended. Thanks boys.
Air, do you ever see me posting anti-Atheism shit all over the forums? Do you even hear me say "your beliefs are ignorant" or anything to that effect? No. Because I'm not a total fucking twat. Maybe you could learn something. I don't care if you're open to the "criticism" or not, it's not my place to judge your beliefs, and it's not your place to judge mine. As I am a newly converted Christian, I have yet to sit down and pick apart the Bible. Sue me. Regardless, that doesn't mean I have to believe and agree with every single word of the Bible to be a Christian. What I don't agree with is between me and God. I'm with you on some things. The picture you posted about praying for cures then damning the people who try to find said cures made me smirk. But to say all religion is nothing but ignorance and bigotry is extremely offensive to those of us who believe in a religion but not all of their practices. That's like saying all black men are deadbeats that get a woman pregnant and never see her again. There are bad people who consort with Christianity, who take His every word to the extreme in His name. I don't agree with them. You don't either. But to sit here and basically say all religious people are stupid for being religious is saying I'm stupid too. Nice to see how you value our friendship there.
You loathe closemindedness. Does that mean you loathe yourself? Because that's all I see when you post this bullshit. "Oh my gawd, something that might vaguely relate to religion. Better bash it!"
Title: Re: What do you hate the most?
Post by: Airbongo on 1 June 2013, 10:36:53 AM
It's not about religion. Religion is just an excuse. Religion isn't some divine truths that you believe in or don't, it's a human invention. Atheism is a human invention too. You can believe all you want but as long as you use those beliefs to an end that isn't good then it isn't the beliefs fault but your own. Don't look down on people because they believe in something, you believe in atheism. I tend to support the views of Buddhism, though I wouldn't call myself Buddhist just yet. Buddhism is also an atheist religion.
The atheist stuff you link is kinda funny but you are acting just as closed minded and bigoted as the religious people you are mocking.
The only wrong most religions actively do is discouraging the search for knowledge, I don't think religion and knowledge are incompatible.
Wow, never did I think anyone else would actually speak up about this. Kinda figured I'd just fade out as the outspoken Christian, deemed to be overly sensitive when someone blatantly attacks something I believe in and then doesn't show much concern when I'm offended. Thanks boys.
Air, do you ever see me posting anti-Atheism shit all over the forums? Do you even hear me say "your beliefs are ignorant" or anything to that effect? No. Because I'm not a total fucking twat. Maybe you could learn something. I don't care if you're open to the "criticism" or not, it's not my place to judge your beliefs, and it's not your place to judge mine. As I am a newly converted Christian, I have yet to sit down and pick apart the Bible. Sue me. Regardless, that doesn't mean I have to believe and agree with every single word of the Bible to be a Christian. What I don't agree with is between me and God. I'm with you on some things. The picture you posted about praying for cures then damning the people who try to find said cures made me smirk. But to say all religion is nothing but ignorance and bigotry is extremely offensive to those of us who believe in a religion but not all of their practices. That's like saying all black men are deadbeats that get a woman pregnant and never see her again. There are bad people who consort with Christianity, who take His every word to the extreme in His name. I don't agree with them. You don't either. But to sit here and basically say all religious people are stupid for being religious is saying I'm stupid too. Nice to see how you value our friendship there.
You loathe closemindedness. Does that mean you loathe yourself? Because that's all I see when you post this bullshit. "Oh my gawd, something that might vaguely relate to religion. Better bash it!"
I never said religious people are stupid, I said some of their beliefs are stupid. I really don't see whats wrong with some intelligent debating on this forum...I don't think religion is immune to criticism and how am I a twat for pointing out the obvious problems/flaws in religions like Christianity? Let's go back to posting meaningless humorous stuff, I guess.
I really don't see whats wrong with some intelligent debating on this forum...
Personally, I don't think posting all these anti-religion pictures is a way of starting a debate, you just look like a total asshole when you do it.
You think I should burn in hell for being an atheist...but I'm an asshole for posting a few humorous pics about religion? :o
Title: Re: What do you hate the most?
Post by: Akomine on 1 June 2013, 01:55:58 PM
1. Atheism is not a human construct. A lack of belief in a deity is the default position. Theism is a human construct, and is invented/learned. This is why becoming an atheist after being a theist is called deconversion - you do not convert to atheism because there are no tenets, there is no dogma, and there is no belief in a deity. You do not 'believe in atheism'. "Atheism is a religion like abstinence is a sex position."
2. Yes, religion is an excuse and a shield for a huge amount of evil in the world. At the same time, many evils are not simply because of humans using religion as an excuse - they are completely unique to religion. Without religion, the world would be without many of these evils. Satire: http://www.thelapine.ca/atheist-suicide-bomber-kills-eighteen-agnostics-0
3. Buddhism, while generally considered an atheist religion (no deities), is still a religion, and still participates in uniquely evil religious bullshit: http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/30/world/asia/religious-violence-myanmar.html?adxnnl=1&adxnnlx=1370107079-PPz00YGxVxn33CZn0Q53IA
4. Islam is a religion. Members are called Muslims.
5. Air has a beef to pick with religion, but did not call all religious people idiots (I honestly looked through the thread to see if he ever said something so stupid. He didn't, so why would anyone claim he did!?). Don't put words in his mouth. He posts things making fun of religion because he wants to make fun of religion. Religion often has an impact on pretty much everyone, and it is not immune from criticism. You are free to criticize atheism and irreligion, just as he is free to criticize theism and religion. I don't see why this topic of conversation is so taboo for some people. Religion is responsible for genocide in my country - is it not okay to criticize it? I don't understand the complaint.
Star, Air never called you an idiot at any point in this thread (or at least I can't find it), and yet you claimed he did, and seemed to use it as a basis for part your argument. Please post me the quote where he said this. You called him a "total fucking twat" though, and I could paste that quote. Also, why did you say "enough" when Air cited religion as a source of abuse against women in many parts of the world? Why exactly must he silence himself??
To everyone: if you want to discuss religion/theism/irreligion/atheism, remember that religious people tend to get very offended by it. They often consider it a conversation that is not supposed to be had. Have the conversation by all means (because nothing is immune from conversation), just tread lightly, and avoid slinging mud.
------- I hate strawmen.
Title: Re: What do you hate the most?
Post by: ChaosMushrooms on 1 June 2013, 04:46:56 PM
1. Atheism is not a human construct. A lack of belief in a deity is the default position. Theism is a human construct, and is invented/learned. This is why becoming an atheist after being a theist is called deconversion - you do not convert to atheism because there are no tenets, there is no dogma, and there is no belief in a deity. You do not 'believe in atheism'. "Atheism is a religion like abstinence is a sex position."
2. Yes, religion is an excuse and a shield for a huge amount of evil in the world. At the same time, many evils are not simply because of humans using religion as an excuse - they are completely unique to religion. Without religion, the world would be without many of these evils. Satire: http://www.thelapine.ca/atheist-suicide-bomber-kills-eighteen-agnostics-0
3. Buddhism, while generally considered an atheist religion (no deities), is still a religion, and still participates in uniquely evil religious bullshit: http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/30/world/asia/religious-violence-myanmar.html?adxnnl=1&adxnnlx=1370107079-PPz00YGxVxn33CZn0Q53IA
4. Islam is a religion. Members are called Muslims.
5. Air has a beef to pick with religion, but did not call all religious people idiots (I honestly looked through the thread to see if he ever said something so stupid. He didn't, so why would anyone claim he did!?). Don't put words in his mouth. He posts things making fun of religion because he wants to make fun of religion. Religion often has an impact on pretty much everyone, and it is not immune from criticism. You are free to criticize atheism and irreligion, just as he is free to criticize theism and religion. I don't see why this topic of conversation is so taboo for some people. Religion is responsible for genocide in my country - is it not okay to criticize it? I don't understand the complaint.
Star, Air never called you an idiot at any point in this thread (or at least I can't find it), and yet you claimed he did, and seemed to use it as a basis for part your argument. Please post me the quote where he said this. You called him a "total fucking twat" though, and I could paste that quote. Also, why did you say "enough" when Air cited religion as a source of abuse against women in many parts of the world? Why exactly must he silence himself??
To everyone: if you want to discuss religion/theism/irreligion/atheism, remember that religious people tend to get very offended by it. They often consider it a conversation that is not supposed to be had. Have the conversation by all means (because nothing is immune from conversation), just tread lightly, and avoid slinging mud.
You said it all man :')
Title: Re: What do you hate the most?
Post by: Die_Endermen on 1 June 2013, 08:53:12 PM
No racism intended, but ya:
Albanians
Fast food
Big time rush
People with no followers on instagram
Those big-wig rich people on VC
Noobs on toontown
People who can't use proper punctuation or grammar or not spell anything right even at 12 YEARS OLD
Title: Re: What do you hate the most?
Post by: Akomine on 1 June 2013, 09:19:05 PM
People who can't use proper punctuation or grammar or not spell anything right even at 12 YEARS OLD
lul Albanians
And they are mad at us also. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expulsion_of_Cham_Albanians (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expulsion_of_Cham_Albanians) http://www.balkanium.com/forum/showthread.php/1816-cham-issue?highlight=Cham (http://www.balkanium.com/forum/showthread.php/1816-cham-issue?highlight=Cham) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cham_issue (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cham_issue)
Title: Re: What do you hate the most?
Post by: Akomine on 3 June 2013, 11:45:33 AM
There are still parts of the world where women have no rights, where if a woman is r4ped it is her fault and she gets put in prison
Religion
Enough.
*Beats dead horse* I'm not sorry if this is "offensive".
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/teenage-rape-victim-destined-to-be-killed/story-e6frg6n6-1226656060310 That link tells the story of a Pakistani girl who was gang raped when she was 13. Pakistan has Islamic traditions and laws. She is to be killed for her disgrace to her family.
Religion is not just an excuse. Religion is a real and true form of evil against many people. This type of evil would not happen if Pakistan were secular; there is no secular doctrine that requires rape victims to be shamed and murdered.
This in no way means I think all religious people are bad people or want this to happen, I only remind everyone that religion will always oppose reality and knowledge in some form or another, and it will always manifest in terrible and uninformed decision-making, such as we see here.
Sorry for bringing it up again (not really!), but I read about this story and it related to what was mentioned in this thread, so I decided to share.
Title: Re: What do you hate the most?
Post by: Fuzzy_Yeti_69 on 3 June 2013, 11:54:21 AM
I found out recently that I hate a lot of the PC gaming community. Same as Xbox live. And PSN seems fine.
(Cue the console wars)
Title: Re: What do you hate the most?
Post by: Akomine on 3 June 2013, 11:58:40 AM
I found out recently that I hate a lot of the PC gaming community. Same as Xbox live. And PSN seems fine.
(Cue the console wars)
PC depends on the game. Red Orchestra 2 / Rising Storm has been my game of choice and the community is great. Xbox live, the few times I've played is completely full to the brim with assholes. I have more experience with the PSN, and it is fine.
Title: Re: What do you hate the most?
Post by: JANUARYJONES on 3 June 2013, 12:11:53 PM
I found out recently that I hate a lot of the PC gaming community. Same as Xbox live. And PSN seems fine.
(Cue the console wars)
Console wars don't make a ton of sense to me, you like what you like. It doesn't matter which one is superior in my opinion. The only console I am not interested in is the Xbox One and there's not a chance in Hell I will buy it.
I found out recently that I hate a lot of the PC gaming community. Same as Xbox live. And PSN seems fine.
(Cue the console wars)
PC depends on the game. Red Orchestra 2 / Rising Storm has been my game of choice and the community is great. Xbox live, the few times I've played is completely full to the brim with assholes. I have more experience with the PSN, and it is fine.
Lol I remember fag COD kids sending me hate messages all the time after beating their asses in Black Ops 1.
Title: Re: What do you hate the most?
Post by: Akomine on 3 June 2013, 12:22:08 PM
I found out recently that I hate a lot of the PC gaming community. Same as Xbox live. And PSN seems fine.
(Cue the console wars)
Console wars don't make a ton of sense to me, you like what you like. It doesn't matter which one is superior in my opinion. The only console I am not interested in is the Xbox One and there's not a chance in Hell I will buy it.
There are still parts of the world where women have no rights, where if a woman is r4ped it is her fault and she gets put in prison
Religion
Enough.
*Beats dead horse* I'm not sorry if this is "offensive".
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/teenage-rape-victim-destined-to-be-killed/story-e6frg6n6-1226656060310 That link tells the story of a Pakistani girl who was gang raped when she was 13. Pakistan has Islamic traditions and laws. She is to be killed for her disgrace to her family.
Religion is not just an excuse. Religion is a real and true form of evil against many people. This type of evil would not happen if Pakistan were secular; there is no secular doctrine that requires rape victims to be shamed and murdered.
This in no way means I think all religious people are bad people or want this to happen, I only remind everyone that religion will always oppose reality and knowledge in some form or another, and it will always manifest in terrible and uninformed decision-making, such as we see here.
Sorry for bringing it up again (not really!), but I read about this story and it related to what was mentioned in this thread, so I decided to share.
There are still parts of the world where women have no rights, where if a woman is r4ped it is her fault and she gets put in prison, where people with money can (sometimes literally) get away with murder
"According to reports the Muslim cleric raped, tortured, and murdered the young girl because he questioned the childs virginity." NSFW Link that tells about what he did to her: http://digitaljournal.com/article/342697 "But under the strict brand of Islamic law practiced in the kingdom, men cannot be executed for killing their wives or children."
The truth hurts.
Title: Re: What do you hate the most?
Post by: Airbongo on 3 June 2013, 02:46:33 PM
I just wanna quote the article Jan posted:
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According to a medical report, the little girl had been tortured with whips, electric shocks and an iron. She had broken arms, a broken back and a fractured skull. She died on October 22.
According to social worker Randa al-Kaleeb, Lama had been raped "everywhere." Hospital staff told the girl's mother that her "daughter's rectum had been torn open and the abuser had attempted to burn it closed," Agence France-Presse reports.
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Al-Ghamdi was jailed for a short period, but the judge ruled that the prosecution could only seek to compel him to pay "blood money" to Lama's mother. That, combined with time served, led to the killer's freedom. In Saudi Arabia, a US ally, people are executed by public beheading for apostasy (renouncing Islam), blasphemy, witchcraft, sorcery, adultery, homosexuality and prostitution. But under the strict brand of Islamic law practiced in the kingdom, men cannot be executed for killing their wives or children.
Insane shit, right? If you are a Christian/catholic you may be thinking "well, my religion doesn't do that kind of crazy shit" but it did...just a few hundred years ago...
Title: Re: What do you hate the most?
Post by: filletfish314 on 3 June 2013, 04:01:35 PM
I hate people that completely hate Nintendo for no reason
Title: Re: What do you hate the most?
Post by: Airbongo on 3 June 2013, 04:28:54 PM
I hate people that completely hate Nintendo for no reason
Nintendo is awesome. Bitches made my childhood when it comes to gaming.
Rich kids with Nintendo.
Huh? What? I don't understand.
Title: Re: What do you hate the most?
Post by: quickhit3 on 3 June 2013, 06:04:22 PM
I shall try and bring this back on track. The thing I hate the most is....... People that start an argument against u on a topic they think they know more about than you when you clearly know more on the topic than them.
Title: Re: What do you hate the most?
Post by: Akomine on 3 June 2013, 06:35:40 PM
According to a medical report, the little girl had been tortured with whips, electric shocks and an iron. She had broken arms, a broken back and a fractured skull. She died on October 22.
According to social worker Randa al-Kaleeb, Lama had been raped "everywhere." Hospital staff told the girl's mother that her "daughter's rectum had been torn open and the abuser had attempted to burn it closed," Agence France-Presse reports.
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Al-Ghamdi was jailed for a short period, but the judge ruled that the prosecution could only seek to compel him to pay "blood money" to Lama's mother. That, combined with time served, led to the killer's freedom. In Saudi Arabia, a US ally, people are executed by public beheading for apostasy (renouncing Islam), blasphemy, witchcraft, sorcery, adultery, homosexuality and prostitution. But under the strict brand of Islamic law practiced in the kingdom, men cannot be executed for killing their wives or children.
Insane shit, right? If you are a Christian/catholic you may be thinking "well, my religion doesn't do that kind of crazy shit" but it did...just a few hundred years ago...
And Africa. Present day.
Title: Re: What do you hate the most?
Post by: Die_Endermen on 3 June 2013, 06:42:07 PM
According to a medical report, the little girl had been tortured with whips, electric shocks and an iron. She had broken arms, a broken back and a fractured skull. She died on October 22.
According to social worker Randa al-Kaleeb, Lama had been raped "everywhere." Hospital staff told the girl's mother that her "daughter's rectum had been torn open and the abuser had attempted to burn it closed," Agence France-Presse reports.
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Al-Ghamdi was jailed for a short period, but the judge ruled that the prosecution could only seek to compel him to pay "blood money" to Lama's mother. That, combined with time served, led to the killer's freedom. In Saudi Arabia, a US ally, people are executed by public beheading for apostasy (renouncing Islam), blasphemy, witchcraft, sorcery, adultery, homosexuality and prostitution. But under the strict brand of Islamic law practiced in the kingdom, men cannot be executed for killing their wives or children.
Insane shit, right? If you are a Christian/catholic you may be thinking "well, my religion doesn't do that kind of crazy shit" but it did...just a few hundred years ago...
And Africa. Present day.
Indeed, negro.
Title: Re: What do you hate the most?
Post by: Tehroach on 9 June 2013, 01:06:00 AM
Yer the thing I hate the most is people who try to justify, the concepts outlined in out-dated, debunked bronze age texts.
I must chime in, because I love a heated religious debate and before I begin I will tell you that I am agnostic and believe that M-Theory is a religion.
OK to believe you must be a Theist, as to be an Atheist by its very definition is to be a non-believer! There is however sections of society that call themselves atheists, but they have a very outlined belief system; this does not highlight the fact that atheist have beliefs, No it highlights the fact that these people have given themselves the wrong label and are in fact Theists themselves, they should define themselves as agnostic as they are not atheists. Unfortunately in our politically correct world, labels and stereotypes have almost been outlawed and it is "PC Wrong" to label people, even though most people will cling to their labels with their lives!
Oh yer, that is the other thing that I hate, "People that hide behind an idea of politically correctness and just turn out to be hypocrites!"
Title: Re: What do you hate the most?
Post by: Akomine on 9 June 2013, 03:58:03 AM
Yer the thing I hate the most is people who try to justify, the concepts outlined in out-dated, debunked bronze age texts.
I must chime in, because I love a heated religious debate and before I begin I will tell you that I am agnostic and believe that M-Theory is a religion.
OK to believe you must be a Theist, as to be an Atheist by its very definition is to be a non-believer! There is however sections of society that call themselves atheists, but they have a very outlined belief system; this does not highlight the fact that atheist have beliefs, No it highlights the fact that these people have given themselves the wrong label and are in fact Theists themselves, they should define themselves as agnostic as they are not atheists. Unfortunately in our politically correct world, labels and stereotypes have almost been outlawed and it is "PC Wrong" to label people, even though most people will cling to their labels with their lives!
Oh yer, that is the other thing that I hate, "People that hide behind an idea of politically correctness and just turn out to be hypocrites!"
Just want to clarify the bolded part. Are you saying there are people who call themselves atheists yet believe in a deity? They are actually theists but should define themselves as agnostics? I don't quite understand.
You are right about political correctness as a shield/deflection.
Title: Re: What do you hate the most?
Post by: Tehroach on 9 June 2013, 10:30:19 AM
Maybe not a deity as such! but they have their own beliefs, therefore they believe and are not true atheists! Then people confuse these with true atheists and come to silly conclusions, like atheism is a religion.
A true atheist does not believe, but relies on evidence only.
Title: Re: What do you hate the most?
Post by: Akomine on 9 June 2013, 02:53:50 PM
Maybe not a deity as such! but they have their own beliefs, therefore they believe and are not true atheists! Then people confuse these with true atheists and come to silly conclusions, like atheism is a religion.
A true atheist does not believe, but relies on evidence only.
I think you are confusing terms, so let me clarify some things:
Theism is the belief in one or more deities. A deity is a supernatural being/force, and the word "God" is often used in place of the word deity.
Atheism is simply not that. A lack of belief in any deities (gods). Atheism has nothing more to it than that. An atheist with "their own beliefs" can still be an atheist, just as most Buddhists are. I don't know what a "true" atheist is, as there is only one type of atheist: one who lacks belief in gods. Period.
Rationalism and reliance on evidence are not requirements of atheism because atheism has no tenets, they are just things that many atheists generally stick to.
Agnosticism is an epistemological philosophy that the existence or non-existence of any deity is unknown and possibly unknowable.
As such, agnosticism and atheism are completely 100% compatible, and need not be separated in every case. I am an agnostic atheist. I also happen to rely on scientific evidence, which is how I derive my knowledge of the Universe.
If anyone can provide evidence of a god, I welcome you to show me. I am an atheist towards all gods, so please define the god you wish to prove.
"We are all atheists about most of the gods that humanity has ever believed in. Some of us just go one god further."
Title: Re: What do you hate the most?
Post by: Tehroach on 10 June 2013, 12:15:25 AM
I think you are confusing terms, so let me clarify some things:
Theism is the belief in one or more deities. A deity is a supernatural being/force, and the word "God" is often used in place of the word deity.
Atheism is simply not that. A lack of belief in any deities (gods). Atheism has nothing more to it than that. An atheist with "their own beliefs" can still be an atheist, just as most Buddhists are. I don't know what a "true" atheist is, as there is only one type of atheist: one who lacks belief in gods. Period.
Rationalism and reliance on evidence are not requirements of atheism because atheism has no tenets, they are just things that many atheists generally stick to.
Agnosticism is an epistemological philosophy that the existence or non-existence of any deity is unknown and possibly unknowable.
As such, agnosticism and atheism are completely 100% compatible, and need not be separated in every case. I am an agnostic atheist. I also happen to rely on scientific evidence, which is how I derive my knowledge of the Universe.
If anyone can provide evidence of a god, I welcome you to show me. I am an atheist towards all gods, so please define the god you wish to prove.
"We are all atheists about most of the gods that humanity has ever believed in. Some of us just go one god further."
Ok, I am confusing terms?
An agnostic atheist you say! An agnostic is in an eternal internal debate about the existence of a supreme, being because they believe that it can not be proven either way. while an atheist simply does not believe, you simply can not exist in these two states at the same time, unless you take the superposition of having schizophrenia.
an agnostic is in a state of "+belief +not believe" an atheist is in the state of "-belief"
add the two together agnostic + atheist = atheism therefore the two are 0% compatible, but because you forgot to cancel you get the out by one answer of 100%
Religion = Faith Faith = belief in something that you yourself have no evidence for.
Buddhists while not believing in a god, are still Buddhists, they don't call themselves Atheist Buddhists, No just simply Buddhists. Now I am talking about someone that has faith in Buddhism, not just someone that has lost faith in all other faiths and thinks, I might try Buddhism. :)
This is where my debate gets a little hard to follow, but will be impossible to follow if you try to muddy the terms. but in the end it is right, because I don't have to shift the dictionary meaning of atheism, which was my point in my first post. The fact people seem to believe that atheism is a belief system, and oppose to the dictionary meaning, opting to want to change the dictionary meaning rather than their understanding. (this bring me to another pet hate, where people have the key to the easy path, but choose to make things harder because they are lazy, ie what is easier changing your mind or making everyone else change theirs? but so many choose the later because they are too lazy to change theirs! ... PS I am not referring to you personally, it is just easier to think about this in the 1st person perspective)
It is a human nature to believe in something, ie myself referring to M-Theory as a religion, while I try to follow M-Theory as close as I can, the maths in many cases is just too mind blowing for me to follow, so I choose to believe the author, simply because I just don't have the time to rework their full-time career. Now this is where the twist comes in, even though I might have the same ideas in my mind as the author and the ideas will function the same; will come to the same conclusions etc. Our ideas differ in their source and therefore, mine become beliefs because I don't have the first hand evidence.
This is how I came to the conclusion, while many people believe the same things as an Atheist, they simply don't have the time, can't or can't be bothered to test these ideas, therefore these ideas become beliefs within their minds, not hard facts. These beliefs will eventually form a religion of sorts, but as there is no label for this new manifested religion, people following it (most without even knowing they are) refer to it as Atheism and this is the group I was referring too.
as for your last statement above the quote, I am agnostic, the very idea of proving a god goes against my beliefs and ultimately my religion :P
lol lol lol
piece out :)
Title: Re: What do you hate the most?
Post by: Ferreira_1 on 11 June 2013, 05:33:11 PM
I hate it when I get accused of doing something I didn't do.
Title: Re: What do you hate the most?
Post by: BlueHorse34 on 17 June 2013, 08:39:42 PM
I don't like nooby snoops. :)
Title: Re: What do you hate the most?
Post by: Lycoris on 18 June 2013, 12:30:52 AM
I don't like being interrupted when i am working on something.
I don't like Exercise. (Fuck you, I'm skinny, I don't need to go or a 5 mile run.)
I don;t like people watching me work. It ruins the mystery of what I'm doing.
Title: Re: What do you hate the most?
Post by: Ep1cWaffles on 3 July 2013, 12:05:19 AM
I have a lot of things that I hate... there's:
People eating obnoxiously (OMNOMNOMNOMNOM, that sort of thing) Cleaning dog poop School Adults Mayo Ketchup Mustard Salt Coca cola (Makes my eyes water and my chest burn) Zombies Creepers Skeletons Endermen (Sorry Die) Lava Lag Screamers Serial Killers Winter coats Spiders Bugs My weight Naps Sleeping Waiting Boredom And, When you try to shave your legs and you check for any hair left after and you're like ok that's gud and then you put on short shorts or a swimsuit and then you realize that there's a crapload of hair left and you get all embarrassed because by the time you notice that you look like bigfoot you're out in public and you run into your friends so you cross your legs and pray to god that they don't notice the crapload of hair on your legs.
Title: Re: What do you hate the most?
Post by: blacka_ch33ze on 7 July 2013, 01:31:05 AM
there are many things
betrayal teh effect saturation villagers sounding like squidward him people making topics off topic him again white noise monster him for the 3rd time racism (yeah I hate him this much)again...him