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Title: Danchessplayer's 8th Ban Appeal
Post by: danchessplayer on 18 October 2015, 02:43:47 PM
Minecraft Username: Danchessplayer

Punishment: Permanent  enforced on  January 29th 2014, The ban was removed  in April, and banned again in may of 2014,

What I was doing to get myself banned: lying, cheating and hacking
Why I should be un-banned:

In the past I have done terrible things, In late January of 2014, I was upset I was not good at PVP. So I decided to get around that, by installing a hack client, and that was a big mistake. Within 2 days after installing the Client I was banned.  During that time I killed many players for their items, it was a grave mistake. I got unbanned in april of 2014. I did not hack again after that. I lied about being banned here to many other players and servers, until in september when I quit minecraft for a while.  I did not get banned on any servers after september of 2014. I am glad I do not hack or cheat anymore, that is behind me. I do feel bad for all of the bad things, and inconveniences that I caused on villagecraft, in the past and I have changed now.  It has been a year and 7 months since the last time I hacked, and  I hope to not ever again.
Title: Re: Danchessplayer's 8th Ban Appeal
Post by: OctoGamer on 18 October 2015, 02:57:53 PM
ohh to great appeals in 1 day
Title: Re: Danchessplayer's 8th Ban Appeal
Post by: Shensley on 18 October 2015, 02:58:14 PM
YES. I LOVE DANCHESSPLAYER UNBAN HIM NOW
Title: Re: Danchessplayer's 8th Ban Appeal
Post by: OctoGamer on 18 October 2015, 02:59:30 PM
in all seriousness, i think dan deserves another chance, with probation.
Title: Re: Danchessplayer's 8th Ban Appeal
Post by: Shensley on 18 October 2015, 03:03:03 PM
in all seriousness, i think dan deserves another chance, with probation.
I also Believe He should get another chance
Title: Re: Danchessplayer's 8th Ban Appeal
Post by: Airbongo on 18 October 2015, 08:41:42 PM
no
Title: Re: Danchessplayer's 8th Ban Appeal
Post by: PengBunny on 18 October 2015, 09:49:07 PM
no

no
Title: Re: Danchessplayer's 8th Ban Appeal
Post by: danchessplayer on 20 October 2015, 07:32:48 PM
Ok :)
Title: Re: Danchessplayer's 8th Ban Appeal
Post by: danchessplayer on 20 October 2015, 08:30:09 PM
Installing a hack client was one of the biggest mistakes in mine-craft, this ban taught me not to hack again, or I would be banned from a lot more servers
Title: Re: Danchessplayer's 8th Ban Appeal
Post by: Airbongo on 20 October 2015, 11:46:57 PM
Installing a hack client was one of the biggest mistakes in mine-craft, this ban taught me not to hack again, or I would be banned from a lot more servers
shh
Title: Re: Danchessplayer's 8th Ban Appeal
Post by: Akomine on 21 October 2015, 12:54:34 AM
no

no

no
Title: Re: Danchessplayer's 8th Ban Appeal
Post by: luisc99 on 21 October 2015, 01:51:08 AM
I mean, it's the eighth ban appeal, so I presume your eighth ban. IMO that's enough second chances
Title: Re: Danchessplayer's 8th Ban Appeal
Post by: OctoGamer on 21 October 2015, 06:37:44 AM
I mean, it's the eighth ban appeal, so I presume your eighth ban. IMO that's enough second chances
its not his 8th ban a lot of his appeals have been denied.
Title: Re: Danchessplayer's 8th Ban Appeal
Post by: bob131573 on 21 October 2015, 08:09:22 AM
in all seriousness, i think dan deserves another chance, with probation.
I also Believe He should get another chance
Idk who he is but he seems cool
Title: Re: Danchessplayer's 8th Ban Appeal
Post by: PengBunny on 21 October 2015, 09:47:38 AM
After eight ban appeals its really just been the same thing over and over again, you don't add anything new to your ban appeals just the same old, "I won't do it again."
Title: Re: Danchessplayer's 8th Ban Appeal
Post by: OctoGamer on 21 October 2015, 03:10:49 PM
After eight ban appeals its really just been the same thing over and over again, you don't add anything new to your ban appeals just the same old, "I won't do it again."
maybe hes telling the truth
Title: Re: Danchessplayer's 8th Ban Appeal
Post by: luisc99 on 21 October 2015, 03:19:48 PM
After eight ban appeals its really just been the same thing over and over again, you don't add anything new to your ban appeals just the same old, "I won't do it again."
maybe hes telling the truth
Or maybe he isn't. It can go either way.

I agree with Peng though. This is your eighth attempt at trying to get unbanned for something, why should we think you've changed?
Title: Re: Danchessplayer's 8th Ban Appeal
Post by: OctoGamer on 21 October 2015, 06:10:56 PM
After eight ban appeals its really just been the same thing over and over again, you don't add anything new to your ban appeals just the same old, "I won't do it again."
maybe hes telling the truth
Or maybe he isn't. It can go either way.

I agree with Peng though. This is your eighth attempt at trying to get unbanned for something, why should we think you've changed?
thats why i said maybe, im not sure if hes telling the truth
Title: Re: Danchessplayer's 8th Ban Appeal
Post by: danchessplayer on 21 October 2015, 08:31:07 PM
That is indeed true, that I have done terrible things back in late January of 2014.  I used hacked and killed a few players over the course of  two to three days , i was with the server for about a month then. I was still new to Mine-craft then, and did not have as much experience as I do now.  In April of 2014, I made an appeal and my ban was lifted for a month. During that time, I did not break any of the rules on village-craft, and did not hack during that time period. Since then, I have been more aware, and I changed a lot as a player, I was not getting banned from servers, I have not been banned from any mine-craft servers in over a year. I am more cautious of what I do on servers, and I know that sometimes I may get the urge to cheat, but instead I should practice, on how to get better at things at mine-craft, instead of using cheats, because it is better in the long run. Since I have not hacked in over a year and a half, I am happy, and am glad that I do not hack anymore, the short time of hacking has taught me to never download any hack clients again. Thank you for your consideration -Danchessplayer
Title: Re: Danchessplayer's 8th Ban Appeal
Post by: OctoGamer on 21 October 2015, 08:40:43 PM
you've been here almost as long as I have. early 2013
Title: Re: Danchessplayer's 8th Ban Appeal
Post by: JANUARYJONES on 21 October 2015, 08:47:05 PM
Danchess, are you a teenage boy or a 35 year old doctor?
Title: Re: Danchessplayer's 8th Ban Appeal
Post by: danchessplayer on 21 October 2015, 09:17:27 PM
I am currently 17. My parents did not like me sharing my age online,   I   feel more comfortable sharing my age now , I used to be a  bit paranoid in the past about sharing my personal information, but now not, I am a much different person than I was around two years ago, when I first joined this server. I originally said I was a teen when I joined this server. Although that was no mistake for lying about my age for a while, and I apologize about that.  Its been a year and six months since I last was on villagecraft. thank you for your consideration -Danchessplayer
Title: Re: Danchessplayer's 8th Ban Appeal
Post by: Noket on 22 October 2015, 09:01:24 PM
That is indeed true, that I have done terrible things back in late January of 2014.  I used hacked and killed a few players over the course of  two to three days , i was with the server for about a month then. I was still new to Mine-craft then, and did not have as much experience as I do now.  In April of 2014, I made an appeal and my ban was lifted for a month. During that time, I did not break any of the rules on village-craft, and did not hack during that time period. Since then, I have been more aware, and I changed a lot as a player, I was not getting banned from servers, I have not been banned from any mine-craft servers in over a year. I am more cautious of what I do on servers, and I know that sometimes I may get the urge to cheat, but instead I should practice, on how to get better at things at mine-craft, instead of using cheats, because it is better in the long run. Since I have not hacked in over a year and a half, I am happy, and am glad that I do not hack anymore, the short time of hacking has taught me to never download any hack clients again. Thank you for your consideration -Danchessplayer

You weren't a hacker, you were a skiddie. I don't know why minecraft players call themselves hackers when they're just skiddies.

Anyway, all that aside. I believe dan should have another chance. I am well aware of the damage he caused, which includes ban avoidance, spam, grief, and hacking:

2/1/2014 17:06:17   Danchessplayer   Hacks   Today   Ban      Using PVP hacks, and attacking in No-PVP areas      Fuzzy_Yeti_69
2/1/2014 17:08:29   danchessplayer   Violation of PVP-off zone   Recent   (None; Supplementary Info)            Akomine, JANUARYJONES, Various Staff
6/26/2014 14:22:36   Danchessplayer   Spam, Grief, Violation of PVP-off zone, Violation of no-PVP agreement, Harassment/Bullying, cheater   all the time   Ban      Airborne101st45
9/19/2014 22:03:30   hollowarn   ban avoidance with alt   Just now   Ban   Came on and said he was danchessplayer, talked to die_enderman         Dallas

Even with those things in mind, I am willing to support a 1-year probationary unban. However, this probationary period comes with conditions that, should you (very specifically) grief (whether it's 1 block or 50) or hack (including x-ray), you forfeit your right to further appeal and be banned from this server indefinitely. Less serious violations will not forfeit your right to appeal, but will warrant a ban. The earliest time which you may appeal will be 2 months following the date of the ban.

I realize these conditions are harsh, however these conditions may be the only conditions under which you might be granted another chance.

@Akomine @Airbongus Van Winkledorf @JANUARYJONES @PengBunny ... please reply whether or not you find these conditions acceptable.
Title: Re: Danchessplayer's 8th Ban Appeal
Post by: Akomine on 22 October 2015, 09:38:17 PM
I do not find this condition acceptable: "you forfeit your right to further appeal"
Forcing him to forfeit his right to further appeal is against the rules where staff may only limit re-appeals to a maximum of 3 months. I also disagree with it for a variety of other reasons, but anyways;

I do find the no-grief probation rule acceptable, and i'd add that he can only use one account on the server (his main Danchessplayer account only, no others). I still don't support unbanning him - though I won't block any attempts to approve this appeal either. I will however actively block any attempt to have him forfeit his right to appeal.
Title: Re: Danchessplayer's 8th Ban Appeal
Post by: PengBunny on 22 October 2015, 10:01:32 PM
Sounds good except for the "forfeit your right to further appeal" that Ako already brushed upon.
Title: Re: Danchessplayer's 8th Ban Appeal
Post by: Noket on 22 October 2015, 11:52:34 PM
I do not find this condition acceptable: "you forfeit your right to further appeal"
Forcing him to forfeit his right to further appeal is against the rules where staff may only limit re-appeals to a maximum of 3 months. I also disagree with it for a variety of other reasons, but anyways;

I do find the no-grief probation rule acceptable, and i'd add that he can only use one account on the server (his main Danchessplayer account only, no others). I still don't support unbanning him - though I won't block any attempts to approve this appeal either. I will however actively block any attempt to have him forfeit his right to appeal.

I had added the condition because I believed staff were very opposed to unbanning, and that it might have been the only condition under which unbanning might have been considered.

Current conditions: 1 year probationary period under which any rule breaking (serious of minor) results in immediate ban. You may only use 1 account during this period, even if you are banned again.
 
https://www.youtube.com/v/-GgERp9RIGY
Title: Re: Danchessplayer's 8th Ban Appeal
Post by: danchessplayer on 23 October 2015, 06:45:16 AM
These conditions seem to be very fair, in this current situation.
Title: Re: Danchessplayer's 8th Ban Appeal
Post by: bob131573 on 24 October 2015, 08:19:03 PM
Yea unban my new bae <3
Title: Re: Danchessplayer's 8th Ban Appeal
Post by: Noket on 24 October 2015, 09:37:44 PM
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Rule: unless you are appealing a punishment, please don't post in someone else's appeal unless you have evidence or information that would make your intervention worthwhile. We don't need comments or opinions, unless we ask for them. Evidence and information is okay. Intervening with irrelevant posts that are not important to the appeal may result in an immediate forum temporary ban. Please, though, post useful information, observations, and interpretations if they add to the thread.
Title: Re: Danchessplayer's 8th Ban Appeal
Post by: danchessplayer on 25 October 2015, 02:56:35 PM
Indeed, I really appreciate the thought of you guys thinking about giving me another chance,  dispite my bad behavior In the past. I have definitely learned that I should not cheat on servers, it is bad in the long term. I should have thought about the consequences and wrong doings in the long run,  thanks again -Danchessplayer 
Title: Re: Danchessplayer's 8th Ban Appeal
Post by: JANUARYJONES on 25 October 2015, 04:08:20 PM
I'm glad you're done with the weird lies even though every time you appeal you sound like a bot.
Title: Re: Danchessplayer's 8th Ban Appeal
Post by: danchessplayer on 25 October 2015, 06:31:51 PM
 thanks for letting me know , I will try to sound less like a bot in the future - Danchessplayer
Title: Re: Danchessplayer's 8th Ban Appeal
Post by: Noket on 26 October 2015, 05:29:31 PM
Just as an FYI, this appeal is currently waiting for a final decision from dissenting staff.
Title: Re: Danchessplayer's 8th Ban Appeal
Post by: danchessplayer on 26 October 2015, 06:26:56 PM
thanks for letting me know - Danchessplayer
Title: Re: Danchessplayer's 8th Ban Appeal
Post by: danchessplayer on 8 November 2015, 09:36:10 AM
what do you mean by "dissenting" staff? 
Title: Re: Danchessplayer's 8th Ban Appeal
Post by: OctoGamer on 8 November 2015, 12:14:41 PM
staff that disagree
Title: Re: Danchessplayer's 8th Ban Appeal
Post by: danchessplayer on 8 November 2015, 12:40:43 PM
thanks , i know understand , thanks for letting me know OcoGamer :) , - Danchessplayer
Title: Re: Danchessplayer's 8th Ban Appeal
Post by: danchessplayer on 22 November 2015, 07:08:26 PM
:)
Title: Re: Danchessplayer's 8th Ban Appeal
Post by: Akomine on 22 November 2015, 09:05:05 PM
Just as an FYI, this appeal is currently waiting for a final decision from dissenting staff.

Currently this includes you and octo.

@Noket and @OctoGamer please post a verdict to this appeal, it is long overdue.
Title: Re: Danchessplayer's 8th Ban Appeal
Post by: OctoGamer on 23 November 2015, 06:40:30 AM
i said i'm fine with him being unbanned.
Title: Re: Danchessplayer's 8th Ban Appeal
Post by: Noket on 23 November 2015, 06:34:19 PM
That is indeed true, that I have done terrible things back in late January of 2014.  I used hacked and killed a few players over the course of  two to three days , i was with the server for about a month then. I was still new to Mine-craft then, and did not have as much experience as I do now.  In April of 2014, I made an appeal and my ban was lifted for a month. During that time, I did not break any of the rules on village-craft, and did not hack during that time period. Since then, I have been more aware, and I changed a lot as a player, I was not getting banned from servers, I have not been banned from any mine-craft servers in over a year. I am more cautious of what I do on servers, and I know that sometimes I may get the urge to cheat, but instead I should practice, on how to get better at things at mine-craft, instead of using cheats, because it is better in the long run. Since I have not hacked in over a year and a half, I am happy, and am glad that I do not hack anymore, the short time of hacking has taught me to never download any hack clients again. Thank you for your consideration -Danchessplayer

Anyway, all that aside. I believe dan should have another chance. I am well aware of the damage he caused, which includes ban avoidance, spam, grief, and hacking:


I was never dissentin', fool.

I think we're waiting for @Airbongus Van Winkledorf to reverse his "no"
Title: Re: Danchessplayer's 8th Ban Appeal
Post by: Akomine on 23 November 2015, 08:41:49 PM
It seems that more staff than not want to keep him banned, and that you and octo were dissenting that opinion.

Since you were making a probation deal, I figured you'd try to get danchess to agree to something and then deliver a verdict based on that. If he's going to be unbanned, that is.

If neither of you will post a verdict, let me know and I will post one.
Title: Re: Danchessplayer's 8th Ban Appeal
Post by: danchessplayer on 24 November 2015, 06:39:20 AM
I would agree to any probation rules , as stated earlier in this appeal .
Title: Re: Danchessplayer's 8th Ban Appeal
Post by: Airbongo on 25 November 2015, 02:13:37 AM
No.
Title: Re: Danchessplayer's 8th Ban Appeal
Post by: danchessplayer on 28 November 2015, 03:31:03 PM
ok :)
Title: Re: Danchessplayer's 8th Ban Appeal
Post by: Akomine on 29 November 2015, 04:27:11 PM
I was waiting for someone in favour of your unban to give you a verdict with the probation agreement.
However, I've been given the go-ahead to post a verdict. Better luck next time. Representing the "no" group:

Verdict:
Appeal Denied