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VillageCraft Boards => Parliament | Suggestions => Topic started by: Naomi on 4 June 2020, 09:16:14 PM

Title: McMMo
Post by: Naomi on 4 June 2020, 09:16:14 PM
So I was talking on the server this evening and it got me reminiscing to my old server of being the top woodcutter of McMMo and how fun it was to work on different stats. I understand there were issues with PVP aspects of the plugin and was wondering everyone's thoughts on it getting brought back? Or what was the issue with it that it's no longer here?
Title: Re: McMMo
Post by: CyphurTheFox on 4 June 2020, 09:23:20 PM
I would be interested in bringing MCMMO back
Title: Re: McMMo
Post by: FadeShock on 4 June 2020, 09:37:45 PM
Would love to see McMMo readded. All that really needs to be done is to remove/disable all the modules related to combat.
Title: Re: McMMo
Post by: gerrit70 on 5 June 2020, 06:08:25 AM
If I remember correctly, quite a few people are strongly opposed to McMMo, I cant exactly remember the reasons but I'll edit this if I find them.

It would appear that a functioning plugin would have to be found first, but this is circa 2015, there might be a new one or something.

Quote from: Akomine on 13 August 2015, 06:42:39 PM
Yes we had MCMMO once, no we're never going back.
Sorry, find an alternative plugin if you like. MCMMO is a mess.
Title: Re: McMMo
Post by: luisc99 on 5 June 2020, 09:13:46 AM
My opinion on McMMo would be a no, for reasons which have been explained in the many (1 (http://www.villagecraft-server.com/forum/index.php?topic=3648.0) 2 (http://www.villagecraft-server.com/forum/index.php?topic=3939.0) 3 (http://www.villagecraft-server.com/forum/index.php?topic=3878.0) 4 (http://www.villagecraft-server.com/forum/index.php?topic=527.0) 5 (http://www.villagecraft-server.com/forum/index.php?topic=4264.msg40108#msg40108) etc) threads about it in the past, as well as a Parliament vote (http://www.villagecraft-server.com/forum/index.php?topic=138.0) to remove the plugin, which had a significantly majority in favour of removing the plugin.

For what it's worth, the features which have been most requested over the years I'm currently trying to implement in a new plugin which adds them in a more VC-friendly way, which I *hope* to finish over summer, but based on the size of my list I can't promise anything
Title: Re: McMMo
Post by: Akomine on 5 June 2020, 11:41:06 AM
It has been many years since we dealt with MCMMO, which was an absolute mess of a plugin that didn't play nice with other plugins. Like, it didn't respect worldguard, it did really weird things and cancelled actions by other plugins. It's almost like it was meant to be the ONLY plugin on a server. I recognize the fun things it adds, and I'm perfectly fine with them... it's just a nightmare in many of our memories having to deal with all of the really weird and numerous problems it created.

With that said, if it has been actively and heavily developed for the last several years, then I'm actually not sure what MCMMO is like nowadays. Maybe it's great and compatible with other plugins, I have no idea.
Title: Re: McMMo
Post by: PengBunny on 5 June 2020, 12:43:16 PM
FUCK MCMMO! FUCK MCMMO! FUCK MCMMO! FUCK MCMMO! FUCK MCMMO!
Title: Re: McMMo
Post by: Naomi on 5 June 2020, 09:32:57 PM
If it is mean to the plugins we have now then it clearly is something the server doesn't need. I loved the tree felling you got with a high woodcutting  :-*
Title: Re: McMMo
Post by: Akomine on 5 June 2020, 10:35:43 PM
Quote from: nealger2017 on  5 June 2020, 09:32:57 PM
If it is mean to the plugins we have now then it clearly is something the server doesn't need. I loved the tree felling you got with a high woodcutting  :-*

The tree felling is so nice lol. There may be a plugin that does that actually
Title: Re: McMMo
Post by: gerrit70 on 6 June 2020, 06:18:58 AM
Quote from: Akomine on  5 June 2020, 10:35:43 PM
Quote from: nealger2017 on  5 June 2020, 09:32:57 PM
If it is mean to the plugins we have now then it clearly is something the server doesn't need. I loved the tree felling you got with a high woodcutting  :-*

The tree felling is so nice lol. There may be a plugin that does that actually

I saw two pretty recently, one of them would break lines logs even if they werent a tree though.
Title: Re: McMMo
Post by: luisc99 on 6 June 2020, 09:40:29 AM
Quote from: Akomine on  5 June 2020, 10:35:43 PM
Quote from: nealger2017 on  5 June 2020, 09:32:57 PM
If it is mean to the plugins we have now then it clearly is something the server doesn't need. I loved the tree felling you got with a high woodcutting  :-*

The tree felling is so nice lol. There may be a plugin that does that actually

Like this? (https://www.dropbox.com/s/s6r8srh4xqw702p/2020-06-06T1438.mov?dl=0)
Title: Re: McMMo
Post by: Akomine on 6 June 2020, 02:13:42 PM
Quote from: luisc99 on  6 June 2020, 09:40:29 AM
Quote from: Akomine on  5 June 2020, 10:35:43 PM
Quote from: nealger2017 on  5 June 2020, 09:32:57 PM
If it is mean to the plugins we have now then it clearly is something the server doesn't need. I loved the tree felling you got with a high woodcutting  :-*

The tree felling is so nice lol. There may be a plugin that does that actually

Like this? (https://www.dropbox.com/s/s6r8srh4xqw702p/2020-06-06T1438.mov?dl=0)

Yes lol, is that your code? Does it destroy other log creations that aren't naturally generated trees?

Minor gripe would be I feel like the 2x2 base tree should have the entire base removed, but whatever no biggie.
Title: Re: McMMo
Post by: luisc99 on 6 June 2020, 03:09:48 PM
Quote from: Akomine on  6 June 2020, 02:13:42 PM
Yes lol, is that your code? Does it destroy other log creations that aren't naturally generated trees?

Minor gripe would be I feel like the 2x2 base tree should have the entire base removed, but whatever no biggie.
Yeah, I coded it a while ago for something else. It sometimes catches other logs nearby, but it mostly only captures ones in trees.

What do you mean by the whole base being removed?
Title: Re: McMMo
Post by: Akomine on 6 June 2020, 03:34:47 PM
Quote from: luisc99 on  6 June 2020, 03:09:48 PM
Quote from: Akomine on  6 June 2020, 02:13:42 PM
Yes lol, is that your code? Does it destroy other log creations that aren't naturally generated trees?

Minor gripe would be I feel like the 2x2 base tree should have the entire base removed, but whatever no biggie.
Yeah, I coded it a while ago for something else. It sometimes catches other logs nearby, but it mostly only captures ones in trees.

What do you mean by the whole base being removed?

Like, the 4 base logs being removed to fell that thick tree, rather than 1 just log. Not a big deal tho
Title: Re: McMMo
Post by: luisc99 on 6 June 2020, 05:03:40 PM
Quote from: Akomine on  6 June 2020, 03:34:47 PM
Quote from: luisc99 on  6 June 2020, 03:09:48 PM
Quote from: Akomine on  6 June 2020, 02:13:42 PM
Yes lol, is that your code? Does it destroy other log creations that aren't naturally generated trees?

Minor gripe would be I feel like the 2x2 base tree should have the entire base removed, but whatever no biggie.
Yeah, I coded it a while ago for something else. It sometimes catches other logs nearby, but it mostly only captures ones in trees.

What do you mean by the whole base being removed?

Like, the 4 base logs being removed to fell that thick tree, rather than 1 just log. Not a big deal tho
Oh I get you. Yeah it would be easy to make it work that way, I'll give it a go in the morning
Title: Re: McMMo
Post by: Naomi on 6 June 2020, 10:58:34 PM
Quote from: luisc99 on  6 June 2020, 09:40:29 AM
Quote from: Akomine on  5 June 2020, 10:35:43 PM
Quote from: nealger2017 on  5 June 2020, 09:32:57 PM
If it is mean to the plugins we have now then it clearly is something the server doesn't need. I loved the tree felling you got with a high woodcutting  :-*

The tree felling is so nice lol. There may be a plugin that does that actually

Like this? (https://www.dropbox.com/s/s6r8srh4xqw702p/2020-06-06T1438.mov?dl=0)

Watching that made me so excited, Oh the forests I could destroy! Very reminiscent of what I remember. Does it have a cool down period?
Title: Re: McMMo
Post by: luisc99 on 7 June 2020, 03:21:19 PM
Quote from: nealger2017 on  6 June 2020, 10:58:34 PM
Does it have a cool down period?
Not at the moment, but the way I was going to implement it would give it an implicit cooldown