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General Discussion / Re: Let's Get Excited for the next Event!! 2020 FROG GAMES!!!!!!!!
« on: 13 June 2020, 03:07:54 PM »Will there be hardcore CBT afterwards?
I'm also curious about this
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Will there be hardcore CBT afterwards?
Good Morning everyone!well, it's already ruined my gameplay, which is why I'm not playing as of right now.
I would like to take a moment to remind everyone this is a restriction, not a ban. You still get to use your farms if this is passed, it is only closing farm use when the server is at higher capacity, which is where we see the most lag visually. I know this is a touchy subject but this rule is not to ruin anyone's gameplay. It is an attempt to help players in times we see the most lag.
How can something that isn't even in effect ruin your game play? This makes no sense.
And even if it does come into effect, you can still do your thing if under 10 ppl are on. And it's only until the next update.
While this regulation is well thought out and covers most of the issues, it is just that, a cover. It is simply a stop-gap that will mask the underlying issue without properly resolving the actual problems that are present.
I know this doesn't entirely affect me nor will it change the way I personally play, but this regulation is not only time-consuming to enforce but also piles on more that a staff member would have to do the moment they log in. If I am wrong in this regard, then please do correct me but what would your routine as staff be once this regulation is in place? If you are following it, most likely you will spend the beginning of every play session teleporting from player to player to make sure they are not using a farm. Not only this but can any player soundly estimate the size and scale of a farm without pulling out worldedit or block counting the border? I don't mean to knock anyone's abilities, those are just questions I would ask myself if I was still staff. This creates a tedious and laborious task for both players and staff, the latter who already have much to deal with outside of essentially perma-spying on random players.
Bringing back the mention of existing problems, wouldn't the previously mentioned regulation on prices have a similar effect on the use of farms?
Completely crashing the price for valuable and easily farmable items would make it worthless to create and actively farm any of these resources as they would be no better than earning pennies for the hour. And yes, that would be the pricing I would implement. Either kill the revenue of these farms to deter most of their usage or utterly flip the market and remove the ability to sell these items to the market. Both will have the same effect, I am sure. Both in regards to the immediate effect as well as the public outcry. Even so, this would either push players who farm back to actually playing the game in other ways or they will quit. It is a harsh reality and decision but something that should have been considered the moment massive scale projects were created. The player can still make money outside of creating such farms, it is simply more effort and less afk.
Of course, this is my opinion and perhaps my opinion alone but something of this magnitude is necessary to reinvigorate the worth of money on the server. There is no real economy since anything can be bought after a short moment of farming any of the publicly or privately available areas. There is no proper sense of where it should stop and it has become more about who tops the balance charts or who has the best and most efficient farms to make this money.
While this is only a single step towards a change, it doesn't have to nor should it be the only step taken to change the way things are seen, earned, and implemented.
Feel free to rip this apart,
-Random player opinion.
Nobody is regulating for the sake of regulation. Respectfully, you haven't played enough to experience the nearly unplayable lag spikes during peak times lately, and the widespread frustration that led to this long, painful discussion and now to this.
Completely in favour of this rule as is written in the OP, but with the stipulation of a review upon update to 1.16
Perhaps the repercussions should scale before outright disabling the farm. It would probably be best not to ban players that offend repeatedly, but a temporary region seizure could be in order.
Would something like this work?:
First offence - kick & warning;
Second offence - kick & warning;
Third offence - disablement;
Fourth offence - temp seizure of region.
It may also be prudent to include a clause where if the person was there afking before player count reached 5, then whatever action is taken isn't counted against them? As much as I like this rule, I don't want my farm seized over the fact that I was afk when 4 other people joined
True, just wanted some scalability to make sure that it's not too hard on people that are first offenders. I guess the 4th offence punishment is a bit harsh.
That being said, I've noticed a lot ofchildish argumentsdiscussion about if farms should be banned, which brings me back to the point I'm trying to make in this post. I did some simple tests, and here are the results.
The question shouldn't be about what effect farms have on a laggy server, it should be why is the server lagging in the first place. I'm not too worried about those fluctuations, my goal here is to try and figure out why the TPS is 12-15 during peak times. If I can solve that, then it will have a knock-on benefit which will be very noticeable. If we ban farms during peak hours, the TPS will still be lower than it should, and that's the problem we should be focusing on.
I'd appreciate it if you all stopped arguing over this and speculating as to what you think is causing the lag, and just let me actually try and solve it using the data I have.
So this is an arena game?
Yes, typically VC UHC is held in an arena so matches don't go on forever. If you have any ideas of what you would like to see in this UHC don't hesitate!
In this case, this sounds like it could be a fun event/game that players could partake in. I like the idea, even though I'm not PVPer myself, I think having arena games like this is good. Although I wouldn't support unbanning players for this, as if a player is banned it is normally for good reason, and they should only be unbanned if their temp banishment has ended, or they have successfully appealed to staff. Otherwise, I really like this idea!
VC UHC isn't hosted on the main VC server, so banned players won't be welcomed back to the actual VillageCraft server. Therefore I see no problem in welcoming the banned back to get their asses kicked by real VillageCraft members. Anyone you hate? Beat them in UHC and you now hold all the marbles.
Oh ok, which server will it be held on, perhaps I missed that.
So this is an arena game?
Yes, typically VC UHC is held in an arena so matches don't go on forever. If you have any ideas of what you would like to see in this UHC don't hesitate!
In this case, this sounds like it could be a fun event/game that players could partake in. I like the idea, even though I'm not PVPer myself, I think having arena games like this is good. Although I wouldn't support unbanning players for this, as if a player is banned it is normally for good reason, and they should only be unbanned if their temp banishment has ended, or they have successfully appealed to staff. Otherwise, I really like this idea!
So this is an arena game?
Additionally, today I did perform a ban to all players on for a temporary 5 minutes in order to utilize World Edit capabilities for the server. Unfortunately, as you know, the server isn't running too well right now, and, well, that stays true for simple commands such as trying to move a house to another place. [...] but I found it to be the only way to proceed without crashing the server and disturbing Luis for the fourth time that day.
I'm not going to get involved in this, but I'd say if possible try to avoid banning people to use WE unless it's essential. If it can wait, I'd suggest waiting until the server is a little quieter.
Also, don't worry about bothering me. That's why I'm here, it's my job to fix the server when it goes wrong. I'm almost always around, and if not, I'll generally fix it as soon as I see it
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the worldedit was causing the server to hang, so they did the tempban to try to save it from crashing, I think unsuccessfully.
Ngl I kinda miss it here... but I’ve moved on and I’d be attack at hell (school) if I played. My computer also broke.lol just come play if you want to because once your done high school its not gonna matter what those kids think of you - and it shouldn't matter to you now, it is just a game after all its not like your harming anyone by playing it.
@Shensley sweetie get off my mentions please
wow pretty hyproticial. your a fan of ariana grande, who bombed a concert in manchester killing 300 (mostly women and children)
Don't be a dick! 23 people died, including the bomber. Obviously most were women and children. Not sure but wtf, are you saying she bombed her own concert and fans? If you're gonna use a devastating tragedy like this to prove a point then get your facts right!
*mini rant off*
@Shensley sweetie get off my mentions please
wow pretty hyproticial. your a fan of ariana grande, who bombed a concert in manchester killing 300 (mostly women and children)