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Parliament | Suggestions / Re: Rule Rewording Suggestion

« on: 2 September 2022, 04:40:34 PM »

Maybe "punished" was too strong of a word. What I wanted to emphasize more was that it was treated like a violation of the rules when it didn't feel clear that it was.
Thank you for offering to bring it to the Senate. I'd be fine if it didn't go through though, or if no one else found it worthwhile. I don't want to make too big a deal out of this.

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Reports & Grievances / Re: My experience joining the server

« on: 11 August 2022, 01:24:08 PM »

Sorry, I don't want to start a problem here, but come on. "Regardless of the technical wording", as if the words in the literal rulebook don't count for people the staff are trying to defend. I don't see how this is fair treatment whatsoever.

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Reports & Grievances / Re: My experience joining the server

« on: 11 August 2022, 01:18:49 PM »

Seems like you've been kind of biased toward CRH this entire time. Is this how you treat every dispute? Making a decision in favor of the person who did the actual harm, twisting the rules to benefit them, and ultimately ignoring anyone who has a different opinion? Information was provided that clearly shows rules being broken and you brushed it off.
Human resources here needs some work.

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Reports & Grievances / Re: My experience joining the server

« on: 11 August 2022, 12:32:20 PM »

Kale's right, this could potentially also count as in-game harassment. Why else would CRH set a spawn close to her? Why would he choose to repeatedly kill her instead of leaving, if not to make her feel bad and harm her experience?
Also, since there aren't any rules for when a player is "new", I would argue that since the server, along with many of its rules and mechanics, must've changed over the five-six years she spent away, she could be considered new, because she's new to the overall experience of the game, this being supported by her having to build new structures, a new village, due to her old items being unobtainable to her, and her old structures becoming salvageable. And again, I'm trying to go by what the rules themselves are saying. If rule 13 was intended for something, it should've been written in accordance with that something. But it wasn't, and CRH committed the exact action that it disallows.

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Reports & Grievances / Re: My experience joining the server

« on: 11 August 2022, 11:34:48 AM »

I think the argument for the rule being broken is that an action that goes against what is written in the rules occurred. People can phrase it in ways that make it seem like something else happened, but the fact is, the rule disallows teleporting for the purposes of combat against new players, and that is exactly what happened. Nowhere in rule 13 is tpa mentioned, nor is it even technically hinted at that it refers to teleporting to players directly. If someone infers something that isn't necessarily true and comes to a conclusion based on that, I wouldn't call that a completely stable conclusion. I'm not staff, so I can't officially do anything, but I'd be grateful if you considered these facts in the process of deciding what to do about this.

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Reports & Grievances / Re: My experience joining the server

« on: 10 August 2022, 09:38:50 PM »

The rules don't say anything specifically about tpa, just about teleporting in general, which you did. Starting to scramble a bit, aren't you?

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Reports & Grievances / Re: My experience joining the server

« on: 10 August 2022, 09:05:34 PM »

I don't know why he would set his home close to her village if not to spawn camp her, since his base is at x 1000000 z 1000000, which is outside the /wild teleport zone.
Kale trying to run at CRH obviously wasn't an actual attempt to get her items back, since he stole all her weapons and armor, and he could've easily escaped, so no justification there.
There is not a single mention of Dynmap in the pvp section of the rules, so that's simply not relevant.
But this extra stuff shouldn't matter, because the very simple fact at hand is that CRH broke a rule, and he shouldn't be allowed to circumvent punishment because of unrelated facets of the situation.
To make it as clear as can be, because this'll just go on for longer if I don't: rule #13 specifically says, "using teleporting for the purposes of PVP combat, which includes... any hostile act involving teleporting" is allowed. It then says that "Using this tactic to kill/harm new players is unfair and is not allowed".
Was kale a new player? Yes, this was 3 days after she joined.
Did CRH use teleporting for the purposes pvp combat against her? Yes, he used teleporting to get within proximity of her, and then killed her.
Did CRH harm/kill kale? Yes, he killed and robbed her.
Were CRH's actions permitted by the rules? No, the rules were very clear, but he chose to break them anyway.
This is a clear violation of the rules. As I see it, the most reasonable option is to punish CRH accordingly.

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Reports & Grievances / Re: My experience joining the server

« on: 10 August 2022, 07:10:28 PM »

He used teleporting to pvp her despite her being a new player. That clearly violates rule #13, does it not? Because she joined in April and was tp-killed over and over by CRH 3 days later.
Also, if CRH had a case here, wouldn't he be arguing it instead of trying to hide the fact that he doesn't? Does regurgitating some unoriginal joke and trying to act tough while hoping someone else will jump in and defend him seem like something a confident man with a clear conscience would do?

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Reports & Grievances / Re: My experience joining the server

« on: 10 August 2022, 03:47:56 PM »

So you didn't tp kill her, you just tped super close to her and then killed her, over and over again, and stole whatever items she could've used to defend herself if she had the know-how and experience, which according to her, she doesn't. Probably what she meant by defenseless.
And you were killing her for her head, but you also stole her items and taunted her for not being able to get them back, and then killed her when she kept respawning in the place that she presumably set her spawn, given that she was starting a village there? And you're trying to justify killing her over and over by saying she was trying to kill you? After you stole all of her valuable and protective equipment, and you had plenty of chances to leave?
Seems like you're stating your opinions more and avoiding addressing the fact that you broke a rule (or two, if you count repeatedly killing and mocking other players as in-game harassment, which breaks rule #1) less, which is making me doubtful of your being able to con your way out of this one.
You tell others to "take the L", right? Maybe you should take your own advice here. Sorry.

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Parliament | Suggestions / Re: Rule Rewording Suggestion

« on: 10 August 2022, 01:35:38 PM »

It was clarified in the parliament post, yes, but not in the rules spreadsheet. I'm suggesting that it also be written in the spreadsheet, where everyone will see it and there will be less room for confusion. Not everyone is involved with the forums, and punishing them for breaking a rule they didn't know existed feels wrong to me. If you don't want to fix it, then don't. I'm not demanding, only suggesting.

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Parliament | Suggestions / Re: Rule Rewording Suggestion

« on: 9 August 2022, 07:18:37 PM »

Staff would've trusted you anyway. What seems more likely to me is you were trying to manipulate the situation to give yourself leverage and power over me. If you're insecure, if you have issues, it's fine to take time out of your life to help yourself through them. But letting them influence your actions in ways that hurt other people is childish.
For the sake of keeping this post on track, I won't keep engaging in the manifestations of your troubled psyche that you leave here. There's a legitimate discussion here that I'm willing to work around your interruptions, and I hope others are able to do the same.

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Parliament | Suggestions / Re: Rule Rewording Suggestion

« on: 9 August 2022, 03:39:44 PM »

In local chat, he was quite clearly unphased by my actions. If you ask me, he's just trying to portray me in whatever way gets me in trouble and gets the staff to take his side.
I won't ask you to ignore CRH, but I will ask you to listen to me as well as him. Please keep an open mind here. Please enact community and fairness via impartiality. Thank you.

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Parliament | Suggestions / Re: Rule Rewording Suggestion

« on: 8 August 2022, 05:14:46 PM »

I'm not looking for a strict, all-inclusive explanation as much as I am a brief and general set of guidelines that outline the type of thing this rule is against. The role the staff play in these cases wouldn't change.

There is one occurrence I have in mind regarding this rule. Because I did not consider it to be an advantage or disadvantage of any sort, and because the other player involved did not display opposition, I used an exploit to go through locked doors and explore a base that I was teleported to.
Of course, if the rule is considered a certain way, this action can/should be considered wrong. But how the rule itself should be considered feels ambiguous to me, and I want to change that.

Again, this situation isn't particularly prominent, but I'd personally rather be safe than sorry regarding the player experience and things that affect it.

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Parliament | Suggestions / Re: Rule Rewording Suggestion

« on: 6 August 2022, 07:26:53 PM »

Thank you for responding.
I think it would be clearer if there was a note next to it saying something like, "Unfair advantages include: glitching through a wall or door to avoid pvp combat/death, glitching through a wall or door to get access to someone's base when access was denied", or any explanation of whatever falls under the parameters of unfair advantage.
This is a relatively minor issue, but I'd rather it be fixed than not, if it wouldn't take too much time and effort on the part of the staff/community.

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Parliament | Suggestions / Rule Rewording Suggestion

« on: 5 August 2022, 04:57:37 PM »

In rule #18, "Abusing an exploit to gain an unfair advantage" is categorized as not allowed. To me, while the rule itself is reasonable, the wording feels ambiguous and unclear. I move we add an extra note explaining exactly what would be considered an unfair advantage and in what context, helping players to not be punished for breaking a rule they didn't see on the list.

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Parliament | Suggestions / Re: Register for Parliament - Become an MP! (Reply to this thread)

« on: 4 August 2022, 09:59:52 PM »

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