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Senate of VillageCraft / Resignation
« Last post by Noket on 18 January 2024, 03:07:30 AM »
I resign.

It's a pain in the ass to have Dallas shit on every single one of my ideas, and I'm tired of it. Everybody falls in line behind her, and at this point I'm the only one defending myself. To hell with it. Fill my spot with somebody else.
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Parliament | Suggestions / Re: Discussion on Issues With /fly
« Last post by Noket on 18 January 2024, 03:03:22 AM »
I agree with most of what Myst has said; however I have seen instances that I as a player might perceive as staff "favoritism" in giving out /fly.  If a player doesn't feel comfortable asking for /fly or know that they are allowed to ask for it, seeing other players in /fly mode could then look a lot like favoritism. 

I also don't think region-specific fly is a good solution, not only because of the abuse potential that Myst pointed out, but also in that it relies on staff to know which villages have it and to monitor its use on an ongoing basis.  A per-player perm is much more easily tracked and managed. 

I'm not against either or both of the following:  1) more structure for giving out /fly to players - something like a permit - tell us what you want it for, and how long you think you need it; and 2) more regulation against staff using /fly for their personal builds.  I already don't think staff should use /fly for building farms. 

I'm also not against removing /fly and /gamemode creative from inactive or former staff.

Dallas

I should probably clarify - what I had in mind, and had proposed (or at least was implying) - was that a traceable system would be where new regions are created and deleted which define the regions where fly can be used (independent of a village region).

Ie: a player wants to build a statue at xyz coords? Great. Here's a region that only allows fly around xyz coords (not their entire village)

this would nullify myst's point - no way to build a farm if the fly region is narrowly coordinate restricted solely to the confines of that build project.

and for traceability - all that would need to happen is for the fly region to be a child of any abstract parent region .. it could literally be named "fly-parent", and all the regions that grant fly would be children of that parent.

alls I'm saying is, region based perms is a good idea and can work while minimize staff supervision.

that said - my ideas are getting shit on lately, so fuck it.
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Paying Daypath for referring Fluffupenguin.
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Parliament | Suggestions / Re: Discussion on Issues With /fly
« Last post by Akomine on 17 January 2024, 03:31:27 PM »
I think that allowing players /fly whenever they want with a "permit" or allowing them to have fly whenever they're in a village can be misused easily. Although players may be punished for using this during PvP there are also other issues as Myst mentioned such as exploring areas with fly - this would be hard to keep track of.

What I initially proposed is not much different than what we have now, but I wanted to create more "guidelines" as to when players & staff should be using fly.
Ex: Not using fly for farms, using fly for builds in the air, etc.

I'm spitballin:

If we go thru with this, I more or less think that someone granted fly should need to specifically agree to some standardized wording that says they will not build any industrialized autofarm/spawner device, not engage in pvp, and understand that their fly ability is intended as a building tool in their agreed upon region for their build.

The Staff member(s) granting this should then be required to log it; "Gave Daypath /fly for village build in Skystar-McMansion region".

I also wonder if we should be offering this tool to Villages of a certain tier or not? That way it could already be established, there's proof of concept, and thus the Staff member goes "yeah, I see what you got goin here, this build would def be helped with a lil /fly"
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fluffupenguin, I am the owner of spruceling!
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Parliament | Suggestions / Parliament Vote 40: Additions to Donor Ranks
« Last post by Daypath on 16 January 2024, 08:54:21 PM »
With the passing of this legislation, the following changes/additions marked in bold will be made to the existing donor ranks found at https://www.villagecraft-server.com/donate.php:

This is the current wording proposed by Senator Dallas.

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Any donor of more than $1 will receive a blue [D] tag in-game, and the ability to colour code your nickname, plus an extra row in your backpack
 
Donors of $5 or more will receive...
·       An improved [VIP] donor tag
·       The ability to colour-code your nickname
·       An extra 2 rows in your backpack
·       A handful of new pets to pick from
·       Plus the ability to set 3 homes
·       Plus a seat as a Member of Parliament (MP)
·       Plus 2,000 times your donation in in-game cash
 
Donors of $10 or more will receive...
·       A sleek silver [VIP] donor tag
·       The ability to colour-code your nickname
·       An extra 3 rows in your backpack
·       A choice of new pets to pick from
·       The ability to set 4 homes
·       A seat as a Member of Parliament (MP)
·       2,000 times your donation in in-game cash
·       Plus removed teleport cooldowns and delays
·       Plus access to disposal anywhere with /disposal
 
Donors of $20 or more will receive...
·       A glorious gold [VIP] donor tag
·       The ability to colour-code your nickname
·       An extra 4 rows in your backpack
·       A range of new pets to pick from
·       The ability to set 6 homes
·       A seat as a Member of Parliament (MP)
·       2,000 times your donation in in-game cash
·       Removed teleport cooldowns and delays
·      Access to disposal anywhere with /disposal
·       Plus access to all non-private village warps
·       Plus the ability to wear items on your head with /hat
·       Plus access to a crafting table anywhere with /workbench or /wb
·       Plus access to a grindstone anywhere with /grindstone
·       Plus access to a smithing table anywhere with /smithingtable
·       Plus the ability to select from two particle effects for your character to display with /particle
 
Donors of $50 or more will receive...
·       A tempestuous teal [VIP] donor tag
·       The ability to colour-code your nickname
·       An extra 5 rows in your backpack
·       A selection of new pets to pick from
·       The ability to set 12 homes
·       A seat as a Member of Parliament (MP)
·       2,000 times your donation in in-game cash
·       Removed teleport cooldowns and delays
·       Access to disposal anywhere with /disposal
·       Access to all non-private village warps
·       The ability to wear items on your head with /hat
·       Access to a crafting table anywhere with /workbench or /wb
·       Access to a grindstone anywhere with /grindstone
·       Access to a smithing table anywhere with /smithingtable
·       Plus access to a loom anywhere with /loom
·       Plus access to a cartography table anywhere with /cartographytable
·       Plus the ability to select from four particle effects for your character to display with /particle
·       Plus the ability to use formatting codes in nicknames (bold/italic/etc.)
·       Plus the ability to use colours or formatting codes on signs
·       Plus a CHEESE hat to wear in game
·       And more unique features as we add them...
 
Donors of $75 or more will receive...
·       A Radical Rainbow Donor Tag that you can customize with any colours (except for predominantly red). Default will be a purple [VIP] donor tag
·       The ability to colour-code your nickname
·       A wide selection of new pets to pick from
·       The ability to set 17 homes
·       A seat as a Member of Parliament (MP)
·       2,000 times your donation in in-game cash
·       Removed teleport cooldowns and delays
·       Access to disposal anywhere with /disposal
·       Access to all non-private village warps
·       The ability to wear items on your head with /hat
·       Access to a crafting table anywhere with /workbench or /wb
·       Access to a grindstone anywhere with /grindstone
·       Access to a smithing table anywhere with /smithingtable
·       Access to a loom anywhere with /loom
·       Access to a cartography table anywhere with /cartographytable
·       Plus access to an anvil anywhere with /anvil
·       Plus access to a stonecutter/cutting table anywhere with /stonecutter
·       Plus the ability to select from six particle effects for your character to display with /particle

·       The ability to use formatting codes in nicknames (bold/italic/etc.)
·       The ability to use colours or formatting codes on signs
·       A CHEESE hat to wear in game
·       Plus the ability to use colours or formatting codes in chat
·       And more lovely features as we add them...
 
Donors of $100 or more will receive...
·       Any sexy short Donor Tag that you can customize with any colours (except for predominantly red), as long as it does not conflict with other tags. Default will be black [VIP] donor tag
·       The ability to colour-code your nickname
·       A plethora of new pets to pick from
·       The ability to set 22 homes
·       A seat as a Member of Parliament (MP)
·       2,000 times your donation in in-game cash
·       Removed teleport cooldowns and delays
·       Access to disposal anywhere with /disposal
·       Access to all non-private village warps
·       The ability to wear items on your head with /hat
·       Access to a crafting table anywhere with /workbench or /wb
·       Access to a grindstone anywhere with /grindstone
·       Access to a smithing table anywhere with /smithingtable
·       Access to a loom anywhere with /loom
·       Access to a cartography table anywhere with /cartographytable
·       Access to an anvil anywhere with /anvil
·       Access to a stonecutter/cutting table anywhere with /stonecutter
·       Plus access to an enderchest anywhere with /echest
·       Plus the ability to select from eight particle effects for your character to display with /particle

·       The ability to use formatting codes in nicknames (bold/italic/etc.)
·       The ability to use colours or formatting codes on signs
·       A CHEESE hat to wear in game
·       Plus a mini character hat to wear in game
·       The ability to use colours or formatting codes in chat
·       And more outstanding features as we add them...
 
Donors of $150 or more will receive...
·       Any sexy short Donor Tag that you can customize with any colours (except for predominantly red), as long as it does not conflict with other tags. Default will be light purple (&d) [VIP] donor tag
·       The ability to colour-code your nickname
·       A plethora of new pets to pick from
·       The ability to set 32 homes
·       A seat as a Member of Parliament (MP)
·       2,000 times your donation in in-game cash
·       Removed teleport cooldowns and delays
·       Access to disposal anywhere with /disposal
·       Access to all non-private village warps
·       The ability to wear items on your head with /hat
·       Access to a crafting table anywhere with /workbench or /wb
·       Access to a grindstone anywhere with /grindstone
·       Access to a smithing table anywhere with /smithingtable
·       Access to a loom anywhere with /loom
·       Access to a cartography table anywhere with /cartographytable 
·       Access to an anvil anywhere with /anvil
·       Access to a stonecutter/cutting table anywhere with /stonecutter
·       Access to an enderchest anywhere with /echest
·       The ability to select from ten particle effects for your character to display with /particle
·       The ability to use formatting codes in nicknames (bold/italic/etc.)
·       The ability to use colours or formatting codes on signs
·       A CHEESE hat to wear in game
·       A mini character hat to wear in game
·       The ability to use colours or formatting codes in chat
·       Plus the ability to colour-code your nickname with custom RGB colours
·       And more outstanding features as we add them...

 
 
Donors of $200 or more will receive...
·       Any sexy short Donor Tag that you can customize with any colours (except for predominantly red), as long as it does not conflict with other tags. Default will be light blue (&b) [VIP] donor tag
·       The ability to colour-code your nickname
·       A plethora of new pets to pick from
·       The ability to set 42 homes
·       A seat as a Member of Parliament (MP)
·       2,000 times your donation in in-game cash
·       Removed teleport cooldowns and delays
·       Access to disposal anywhere with /disposal
·       Access to all non-private village warps
·       The ability to wear items on your head with /hat
·       Access to a crafting table anywhere with /workbench or /wb
·       Access to a grindstone anywhere with /grindstone
·       Access to a smithing table anywhere with /smithingtable
·       Access to a loom anywhere with /loom
·       Access to a cartography table anywhere with /cartographytable
·       Access to an anvil anywhere with /anvil
·       Access to a stonecutter/cutting table anywhere with /stonecutter
·       Access to an enderchest anywhere with /echest
·       The ability to select from thirteen particle effects for your character to display with /particle
·       The ability to use formatting codes in nicknames (bold/italic/etc.)
·       The ability to use colours or formatting codes on signs
·       A CHEESE hat to wear in game
·       A mini character hat to wear in game
·       The ability to use colours or formatting codes in chat
·       The ability to colour-code your nickname with custom RGB colours
·       And more outstanding features as we add them...

 
Donors of $300 or more will receive...
·       Any sexy short Donor Tag that you can customize with any colours (except for predominantly red), as long as it does not conflict with other tags. Default will be blue (&9) [VIP] donor tag
·       The ability to colour-code your nickname
·       A plethora of new pets to pick from
·       The ability to set 62 homes
·       A seat as a Member of Parliament (MP)
·       2,000 times your donation in in-game cash
·       Removed teleport cooldowns and delays
·       Access to disposal anywhere with /disposal
·       Access to all non-private village warps
·       The ability to wear items on your head with /hat
·       Access to a crafting table anywhere with /workbench or /wb
·       Access to a grindstone anywhere with /grindstone
·       Access to a smithing table anywhere with /smithingtable
·       Access to a loom anywhere with /loom
·       Access to a cartography table anywhere with /cartographytable
·       Access to an anvil anywhere with /anvil
·       Access to a stonecutter/cutting table anywhere with /stonecutter
·       Access to an enderchest anywhere with /echest
·       The ability to select from all particle effects for your character to display with /particle
·       The ability to use formatting codes in nicknames (bold/italic/etc.)
·       The ability to use colours or formatting codes on signs
·       A CHEESE hat to wear in game
·       A mini character hat to wear in game
·       The ability to use colours or formatting codes in chat
·       The ability to colour-code your nickname with custom RGB colours
·       And more outstanding features as we add them...

 
Donors of $400 or more will receive...
·       Any sexy short Donor Tag that you can customize with any colours (except for predominantly red), as long as it does not conflict with other tags. Default will be light green (&a) [VIP] donor tag
·       The ability to colour-code your nickname
·       A plethora of new pets to pick from
·       The ability to set 82 homes
·       A seat as a Member of Parliament (MP)
·       2,000 times your donation in in-game cash
·       Removed teleport cooldowns and delays
·       Access to disposal anywhere with /disposal
·       Access to all non-private village warps
·       The ability to wear items on your head with /hat
·       Access to a crafting table anywhere with /workbench or /wb
·       Access to a grindstone anywhere with /grindstone
·       Access to a smithing table anywhere with /smithingtable
·       Access to a loom anywhere with /loom
·       Access to a cartography table anywhere with /cartographytable 
·       Access to an anvil anywhere with /anvil
·       Access to a stonecutter/cutting table anywhere with /stonecutter
·       Access to an enderchest anywhere with /echest
·       The ability to select from all particle effects for your character to display with /particle
·       The ability to use formatting codes in nicknames (bold/italic/etc.)
·       The ability to use colours or formatting codes on signs
·       A CHEESE hat to wear in game
·       A mini character hat to wear in game
·       The ability to use colours or formatting codes in chat
·       The ability to colour-code your nickname with custom RGB colours
·       And more outstanding features as we add them...

 
Donors of $500 or more will receive...
·       Any sexy short Donor Tag that you can customize with any colours (except for predominantly red), as long as it does not conflict with other tags. Default will be dark green (&2) [VIP] donor tag
·       The ability to colour-code your nickname
·       A plethora of new pets to pick from
·       The ability to set 102 homes
·       A seat as a Member of Parliament (MP)
·       2,000 times your donation in in-game cash
·       Removed teleport cooldowns and delays
·       Access to disposal anywhere with /disposal
·       Access to all non-private village warps
·       The ability to wear items on your head with /hat
·       Access to a crafting table anywhere with /workbench or /wb
·       Access to a grindstone anywhere with /grindstone
·       Access to a smithing table anywhere with /smithingtable
·       Access to a loom anywhere with /loom
·       Access to a cartography table anywhere with /cartographytable 
·       Access to an anvil anywhere with /anvil
·       Access to a stonecutter/cutting table anywhere with /stonecutter
·       Access to an enderchest anywhere with /echest
·       The ability to select from all particle effects for your character to display with /particle
·       The ability to use formatting codes in nicknames (bold/italic/etc.)
·       The ability to use colours or formatting codes on signs
·       A CHEESE hat to wear in game
·       A mini character hat to wear in game
·       Plus a money hat to wear in game
·       The ability to use colours or formatting codes in chat
·       The ability to colour-code your nickname with custom RGB colours
·       And more outstanding features as we add them...

 
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Parliament | Suggestions / Re: Discussion on Issues With /fly
« Last post by Daypath on 16 January 2024, 04:11:15 PM »
I think that allowing players /fly whenever they want with a "permit" or allowing them to have fly whenever they're in a village can be misused easily. Although players may be punished for using this during PvP there are also other issues as Myst mentioned such as exploring areas with fly - this would be hard to keep track of.

What I initially proposed is not much different than what we have now, but I wanted to create more "guidelines" as to when players & staff should be using fly.
Ex: Not using fly for farms, using fly for builds in the air, etc.



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Parliament | Suggestions / Re: Discussion on Issues With /fly
« Last post by Akomine on 16 January 2024, 03:29:12 PM »
In defense of region-based fly:

This could still be a per-player permission, but it would be limited to a specific region. We could include a rule that absolutely forbids use of fly for the construction of any sort of industrial auto-farm or spawner device. We should probably make that a rule regardless honestly.

Now, about how we go about granting fly in the first place, I don't know, but however we do it we should probably keep a public log of it.
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Parliament | Suggestions / Re: Discussion on Issues With /fly
« Last post by Cbddallas on 16 January 2024, 01:10:02 PM »
I agree with most of what Myst has said; however I have seen instances that I as a player might perceive as staff "favoritism" in giving out /fly.  If a player doesn't feel comfortable asking for /fly or know that they are allowed to ask for it, seeing other players in /fly mode could then look a lot like favoritism. 

I also don't think region-specific fly is a good solution, not only because of the abuse potential that Myst pointed out, but also in that it relies on staff to know which villages have it and to monitor its use on an ongoing basis.  A per-player perm is much more easily tracked and managed. 

I'm not against either or both of the following:  1) more structure for giving out /fly to players - something like a permit - tell us what you want it for, and how long you think you need it; and 2) more regulation against staff using /fly for their personal builds.  I already don't think staff should use /fly for building farms. 

I'm also not against removing /fly and /gamemode creative from inactive or former staff.

Dallas
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Parliament | Suggestions / Re: Discussion on Issues With /fly
« Last post by MysteriousKing on 16 January 2024, 11:41:31 AM »
Considering the current system that we have, I do not believe that allowing fly in any capacity for regular players is a good idea without any proper regulations on what fly would be used for.

Keeping in mind, that fly serves as an extremely efficient transportation method; thereby reducing time of whatever activity one is engaging in.

Examining the following cases purposed here, assuming best case scenario (no resource cost):

1) Fly allowed for every player:
As mentioned, this would create a huge problem when pvping; and would also encourage extremely rapid growth in exploration and expansion of the current world. Considering places like the End, fly is a huge game changer as players do not need to invest anything to explore difficult terrains; Or the Nether, when one misstep drops you into lava, is easily solved by just using fly. With a strong enough economy, any player would be basically playing in creative mode. And as I have always said, once you reach 1 mil on VC, you are basically playing on semi creative.

2) Fly based on cost:
Basically same benefit for allowing every player fly, but for rich people

3) Fly based on region:
Although it seemed like a good idea, this system could very easily be abused. Consider this: First building a village, buying permit for fly, convert village to farm. Which for all intensive purposes, it is not a bad thing to have a farm when they are designed appropriately; however that also means that it is relatively easy to prop up multiple different farms in a relatively quick succession.

4) Fly based on permits:
Out of all of the suggestions, I do believe that this is perhaps the best option, as we could regulate a) what players build, b) establish reputation for players and give a guideline for any staff members to handout permits. Albeit, this would be an additional admin work for the staff team to manage. Additionally this is lining up more towards how fly is given today, but formally.

And to address some of the points made in this post,

I do not believe that fly is given based off staff favourtism/discrimination is true, but rather it is based off the specific use cases and reputation. Based on those conditions it is hard to proof definitively that staff favourtism exists.
For my case, if you want fly - just ask, as long as it is reasonable (ie, you are not exploring, you are not pvping, you are not building farm + other conditions) , the most ill ask you to do is something relatively easy and stupid.

As for allowing fly for based off the "difficulty" of builds, I do not believe that would be effective, as it leaves room for interpretation, and you would actually allow "staff favourtism" to play a role.

And also to address the fact of being unfair for building personal builds. I'd like to remind everyone that the creative world exist, and world edit does so too. Whether or not it is a huge burden to the staff team, is another question
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