DISCUSS: EggCatcher and Experience Bottles

[Akomine (OP)]

The Community Minister has presented signatures to the Staff for these 2 plugins to receive a Parliament vote.
We need to figure out a few things first.

EggCatcher
https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/eggcatcher.4038/
This plugin allows for a catch chance, as well as a cost to catch.

Questions:
Which mobs should be catchable?
What should the catch chance be? Should it be different for different mobs?
What should the cost be? Items, money? Should it be different for different mobs?
Anything else?

Should the plugin be functional, the Staff will take ideas into consideration for the upcoming Parliament vote.


EXPBottles
https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/expbottles.32516/
This plugin allows a limit of experience per bottle (10 default), and a cost.

What should the limit of experience be per bottle?
Should there be a cost to fill bottles?
Anything else?

Should the plugin be functional, the Staff will take ideas into consideration for the upcoming Parliament vote.

[Lividup64]

Gere parl group decided to vote si on eggcatcer.

In my opinion, all mobs should be catchable.

The chance should decrease exponentially depending on the rarity of the mob

A catch should cost money and increase ∝ rarity

Nothing else, in my opinion.


ExpBottles

N/a

[lawgunner3]

There should be catch chance and price based on rarity but if the catch fails you can try again and it should only cost if it's successful
With experience we should set it so that it takes ten to fill and it emptyseems ten after with none of the variability it usually has. Cost is up to you guys but it shouldn't be so much that ten levels breaks the bank for fresh guys

[Akomine (OP)]

There should be catch chance and price based on rarity but if the catch fails you can try again and it should only cost if it's successful

I think having only the first attempt have a cost negates the point in having a catch chance at all. I'm guessing the plugin won't have the capacity to do this, but we'll see.

[lawgunner3]

actually you make a good point there

[Blacka_ch33ze]

In my opinion, The catch chance should at a minimum be 75-25 at a very common creature like a chicken and when you get to Evoker and Guardians and such, it should be about 5-95. All mobs (Excluding bosses, of course) should be catchable.
For cost, I think the currency for using this shouldn't be redstone, glowstone, or anything valuable (In a way)/hard to get, but should be mined materials like iron. If not, I believe it should use Sugar, like 5 for common and 30< for Evokers.

As for EXP bottles...
I believe it should hold a maximum (Keyword: Maximum) That at level 0, if you were to use it you would get to halfway through 7. Filling bottles with EXP for storage should cost 2-5 Redstone/Glowstone, and if not that then $12-$30 to fill.

[Akomine (OP)]

In my opinion, The catch chance should at a minimum be 75-25 at a very common creature like a chicken and when you get to Evoker and Guardians and such, it should be about 5-95. All mobs (Excluding bosses, of course) should be catchable.
For cost, I think the currency for using this shouldn't be redstone, glowstone, or anything valuable (In a way)/hard to get, but should be mined materials like iron. If not, I believe it should use Sugar, like 5 for common and 30< for Evokers.

As for EXP bottles...
I believe it should hold a maximum (Keyword: Maximum) That at level 0, if you were to use it you would get to halfway through 7. Filling bottles with EXP for storage should cost 2-5 Redstone/Glowstone, and if not that then $12-$30 to fill.

Thanks for the feedback.

I was thinking of using gold nuggets for EggCatcher. It's a mined material, it has a moderate value (since only nuggets, not ingots), and also provides some value to catching mobs. It's worth noting that there's also a very common ingredient that's always needed: eggs. How's this sound?

For ExpBottles, I appreciate your input. I don't deal with exp much, so all input is useful. Actual resource or dollar values are good to see, thanks.

[iron_shadow_]

The Community Minister has presented signatures to the Staff for these 2 plugins to receive a Parliament vote.
We need to figure out a few things first.

EggCatcher
https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/eggcatcher.4038/
This plugin allows for a catch chance, as well as a cost to catch.

Questions:
Which mobs should be catchable?
What should the catch chance be? Should it be different for different mobs?
What should the cost be? Items, money? Should it be different for different mobs?
Anything else?

Should the plugin be functional, the Staff will take ideas into consideration for the upcoming Parliament vote.


EXPBottles
https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/expbottles.32516/
This plugin allows a limit of experience per bottle (10 default), and a cost.

What should the limit of experience be per bottle?
Should there be a cost to fill bottles?
Anything else?

Should the plugin be functional, the Staff will take ideas into consideration for the upcoming Parliament vote.

Egg catcher:
Any mob exept ender dragon, wither and elder guardian
Hostile mobs should have a lower catch chance
We should have to buy them from the market for something like $500 for a normal one and $700 for a reusable one
We should be able to catch villagers

Exp bottles: N/A

[OctoGamer]

The Community Minister has presented signatures to the Staff for these 2 plugins to receive a Parliament vote.
We need to figure out a few things first.

EggCatcher
https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/eggcatcher.4038/
This plugin allows for a catch chance, as well as a cost to catch.

Questions:
Which mobs should be catchable?
What should the catch chance be? Should it be different for different mobs?
What should the cost be? Items, money? Should it be different for different mobs?
Anything else?

Should the plugin be functional, the Staff will take ideas into consideration for the upcoming Parliament vote.


EXPBottles
https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/expbottles.32516/
This plugin allows a limit of experience per bottle (10 default), and a cost.

What should the limit of experience be per bottle?
Should there be a cost to fill bottles?
Anything else?

Should the plugin be functional, the Staff will take ideas into consideration for the upcoming Parliament vote.

Egg catcher:
Any mob exept ender dragon, wither and elder guardian
Hostile mobs should have a lower catch chance
We should have to buy them from the market for something like $500 for a normal one and $700 for a reusable one
We should be able to catch villagers

Exp bottles: N/A

I think elder guardian's should be catchable, they are not really a boss.

[lawgunner3]

Shadow you use chicken eggs for the captures there is no special one use or reusable device

[Frog]

The Community Minister has presented signatures to the Staff for these 2 plugins to receive a Parliament vote.
We need to figure out a few things first.

EggCatcher
https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/eggcatcher.4038/
This plugin allows for a catch chance, as well as a cost to catch.

Questions:
Which mobs should be catchable?
What should the catch chance be? Should it be different for different mobs?
What should the cost be? Items, money? Should it be different for different mobs?
Anything else?

Should the plugin be functional, the Staff will take ideas into consideration for the upcoming Parliament vote.


EXPBottles
https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/expbottles.32516/
This plugin allows a limit of experience per bottle (10 default), and a cost.

What should the limit of experience be per bottle?
Should there be a cost to fill bottles?
Anything else?

Should the plugin be functional, the Staff will take ideas into consideration for the upcoming Parliament vote.

Egg catcher:
Any mob exept ender dragon, wither and elder guardian
Hostile mobs should have a lower catch chance
We should have to buy them from the market for something like $500 for a normal one and $700 for a reusable one
We should be able to catch villagers

Exp bottles: N/A

I think elder guardian's should be catchable, they are not really a boss.

Also the elder guardians being catchable would allow for sponge farming - a very useful reasourse

[iron_shadow_]

Shadow you use chicken eggs for the captures there is no special one use or reusable device

a chicken egg is too cheap. Imagine how many mobs you can have locked up if you have an egg farm

[OctoGamer]

The Community Minister has presented signatures to the Staff for these 2 plugins to receive a Parliament vote.
We need to figure out a few things first.

EggCatcher
https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/eggcatcher.4038/
This plugin allows for a catch chance, as well as a cost to catch.

Questions:
Which mobs should be catchable?
What should the catch chance be? Should it be different for different mobs?
What should the cost be? Items, money? Should it be different for different mobs?
Anything else?

Should the plugin be functional, the Staff will take ideas into consideration for the upcoming Parliament vote.


EXPBottles
https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/expbottles.32516/
This plugin allows a limit of experience per bottle (10 default), and a cost.

What should the limit of experience be per bottle?
Should there be a cost to fill bottles?
Anything else?

Should the plugin be functional, the Staff will take ideas into consideration for the upcoming Parliament vote.

Egg catcher:
Any mob exept ender dragon, wither and elder guardian
Hostile mobs should have a lower catch chance
We should have to buy them from the market for something like $500 for a normal one and $700 for a reusable one
We should be able to catch villagers

Exp bottles: N/A

I think elder guardian's should be catchable, they are not really a boss.

Also the elder guardians being catchable would allow for sponge farming - a very useful reasourse

No, it would not, once you kill it it is dead and you get the one sponge, your not duping mobs, just capturing them.

[OctoGamer]

Shadow you use chicken eggs for the captures there is no special one use or reusable device

a chicken egg is too cheap. Imagine how many mobs you can have locked up if you have an egg farm

We used to use chicken eggs and gold nuggets to capture, I think we should switch to gold ingots though.

[Akomine (OP)]

Shadow you use chicken eggs for the captures there is no special one use or reusable device

a chicken egg is too cheap. Imagine how many mobs you can have locked up if you have an egg farm

We used to use chicken eggs and gold nuggets to capture, I think we should switch to gold ingots though.

Yes, chicken egg AND a resource like gold. Yeah? You think ingots? Interesting

[lawgunner3]

ingots may be too much

[Blacka_ch33ze]

In my opinion, The catch chance should at a minimum be 75-25 at a very common creature like a chicken and when you get to Evoker and Guardians and such, it should be about 5-95. All mobs (Excluding bosses, of course) should be catchable.
For cost, I think the currency for using this shouldn't be redstone, glowstone, or anything valuable (In a way)/hard to get, but should be mined materials like iron. If not, I believe it should use Sugar, like 5 for common and 30< for Evokers.

As for EXP bottles...
I believe it should hold a maximum (Keyword: Maximum) That at level 0, if you were to use it you would get to halfway through 7. Filling bottles with EXP for storage should cost 2-5 Redstone/Glowstone, and if not that then $12-$30 to fill.

Thanks for the feedback.

I was thinking of using gold nuggets for EggCatcher. It's a mined material, it has a moderate value (since only nuggets, not ingots), and also provides some value to catching mobs. It's worth noting that there's also a very common ingredient that's always needed: eggs. How's this sound?

For ExpBottles, I appreciate your input. I don't deal with exp much, so all input is useful. Actual resource or dollar values are good to see, thanks.

Eggs sound good, since it would take a common ingredient plus whatever other ingredient the staff decide we need. It would make it costly to get a lot of eggs + other ingredient, and even then you're not guaranteed a capture. That's a good thing, since it wouldn't allow people to go around nabbing every mob they see.

[Akomine (OP)]

Roughly how much money/itemvalue should someone need to spend to capture something basic, like a cow?

[iron_shadow_]

Roughly how much money/itemvalue should someone need to spend to capture something basic, like a cow?

probably like $100 cheaper than you can buy the eggs for in the market

[gerrit70]

Dont make villagers capturable, inflation is bad.

[Blacka_ch33ze]

Dont make villagers capturable, inflation is bad.

I agree, Villagers should be the only non-catchable mobs for a lot of reasons.
1) Villagers will spawn in with a different occupation each time, and won't keep trades
2) Villagers will reset all trades even if they do get the same occupation
3) If Villagers WERE capturable, not only would new players (As in Noobs, not new players to the server) kill Villagers, and someone would try and capture them. And as far as I know, from living in an NPC village on Singleplayer, they don't respawn often.
So, yeah, don't let Villagers be capturable. It doesn't pay off.

[OctoGamer]

Dont make villagers capturable, inflation is bad.

I agree, Villagers should be the only non-catchable mobs for a lot of reasons.
1) Villagers will spawn in with a different occupation each time, and won't keep trades
2) Villagers will reset all trades even if they do get the same occupation
3) If Villagers WERE capturable, not only would new players (As in Noobs, not new players to the server) kill Villagers, and someone would try and capture them. And as far as I know, from living in an NPC village on Singleplayer, they don't respawn often.
So, yeah, don't let Villagers be capturable. It doesn't pay off.

I have villager eggs from our old plugin, and when we spawned them they were the same as when they were captured, why not villagers?

[lawgunner3]

I think villagers would be a good idea to keep and be able to spawn as needed

[Blacka_ch33ze]

Dont make villagers capturable, inflation is bad.

I agree, Villagers should be the only non-catchable mobs for a lot of reasons.
1) Villagers will spawn in with a different occupation each time, and won't keep trades
2) Villagers will reset all trades even if they do get the same occupation
3) If Villagers WERE capturable, not only would new players (As in Noobs, not new players to the server) kill Villagers, and someone would try and capture them. And as far as I know, from living in an NPC village on Singleplayer, they don't respawn often.
So, yeah, don't let Villagers be capturable. It doesn't pay off.

I have villager eggs from our old plugin, and when we spawned them they were the same as when they were captured, why not villagers?

Oh, I assumed that it wouldn't keep the mob's data. Well, then only my third point stands. I feel like that one would be a problem.

[Akomine (OP)]

Catching villagers would allow you to repopulate any town with them, including natural NPC towns where they've been killed off, since you can cause them to breed.

We can make catching villagers more expensive than most other things.



Also, we can delete villager inventory when caught, thoughts?

[Lividup64]

Pass this pls

[Frog]

I think that if you were to reset the villagers inventry, people may catch villagers to get rid of bad villagers and replace them with new ones. I think that villagers should be able to be caught, however there should be a price.

[OctoGamer]

I think that if you were to reset the villagers inventry, people may catch villagers to get rid of bad villagers and replace them with new ones. I think that villagers should be able to be caught, however there should be a price.

I agree with this, very true and we plan on the inventorys being stored

[iron_shadow_]

When is this going to be added?

[OctoGamer]

When is this going to be added?

I'm testing a version of mob catcher on the server and there is some issues that need to be sorted, it is a slightly different mob catching plugin that we found was better.