All my Stuff.

[cjm721 (OP)]

Since everyone seems to want to split up my stuff which none of you have any right to even though I am banned (I still have the ability to appeal).

All my items, money, village, and anything else I own now belongs to knitefall.

This includes everything from jmonstruo also.

FYI this should be $4,530,214.77 from just the balances then all of atlantis, narnia, nether-narnia, all atlantis arena areas. Knitefall knows where my chests are but there should not be many lockettes to remove anyways as most of my regions where myself and real life friends only.

[knitefall]

I want my 4.5 mill please

[Aysun]

No.

[cjm721 (OP)]

No.

Not yours, or your say.

[knitefall]

Can someone get Air on so I can collect my things

[Aysun]

I'm not sure that anyone who has been permabanned should have any right to "their" shit. It's the server's now.

An idea:

Charity.

[knitefall]

He is donating it... to me

[Kovos_Datch]

I'm not sure that anyone who has been permabanned should have any right to "their" shit. It's the server's now.

An idea:

Charity.

He has the right to appeal. No permaban is technically a permaban until the appeal is lost.

[Aysun]

Well since he's giving away all his stuff I assumed he wasn't going to appeal. The point remains.

This isn't like someone who is leaving the server and wishes to give away their stuff. CJ was banned for acts against the server. His property is not his any longer, it is VC's (and thus VC's to distribute as it is seen fit).

[cjm721 (OP)]

I'm not sure that anyone who has been permabanned should have any right to "their" shit. It's the server's now.

An idea:

Charity.

I can still apreal, but no real point, but you all have no real reason to divide it up. ZOMGITZsam was on for about 3 days and dig gave him 1mil and you have not split up his stuff, and I had mentioned before about just putting it all in gold in a chest somewhere and the decision was just to leave it be. Also Troll__ lost none of his stuff when banned.  So either way either it stays with my account or noone gets it by your stance then.

[Aysun]

I'm not sure that anyone who has been permabanned should have any right to "their" shit. It's the server's now.

An idea:

Charity.

I can still apreal, but no real point, but you all have no real reason to divide it up. ZOMGITZsam was on for about 3 days and dig gave him 1mil and you have not split up his stuff, and I had mentioned before about just putting it all in gold in a chest somewhere and the decision was just to leave it be. Also Troll__ lost none of his stuff when banned.  So either way either it stays with my account or noone gets it by your stance then.

Then no one gets it.

[Kovos_Datch]

I'm not sure that anyone who has been permabanned should have any right to "their" shit. It's the server's now.

An idea:

Charity.

I can still apreal, but no real point, but you all have no real reason to divide it up. ZOMGITZsam was on for about 3 days and dig gave him 1mil and you have not split up his stuff, and I had mentioned before about just putting it all in gold in a chest somewhere and the decision was just to leave it be. Also Troll__ lost none of his stuff when banned.  So either way either it stays with my account or noone gets it by your stance then.

I agree. I don't think anyone should divide it up... but I also don't think Cj has the right to give it away if he is no longer a player

[cjm721 (OP)]

I'm not sure that anyone who has been permabanned should have any right to "their" shit. It's the server's now.

An idea:

Charity.

I can still apreal, but no real point, but you all have no real reason to divide it up. ZOMGITZsam was on for about 3 days and dig gave him 1mil and you have not split up his stuff, and I had mentioned before about just putting it all in gold in a chest somewhere and the decision was just to leave it be. Also Troll__ lost none of his stuff when banned.  So either way either it stays with my account or noone gets it by your stance then.

Then no one gets it.

Then Everything stays as a frozen state.

[Aysun]

I'm not sure that anyone who has been permabanned should have any right to "their" shit. It's the server's now.

An idea:

Charity.

I can still apreal, but no real point, but you all have no real reason to divide it up. ZOMGITZsam was on for about 3 days and dig gave him 1mil and you have not split up his stuff, and I had mentioned before about just putting it all in gold in a chest somewhere and the decision was just to leave it be. Also Troll__ lost none of his stuff when banned.  So either way either it stays with my account or noone gets it by your stance then.

Then no one gets it.

Then Everything stays as a frozen state.

Until someone finds your stuff and you've been gone 2 months, yes.

[cjm721 (OP)]

I'm not sure that anyone who has been permabanned should have any right to "their" shit. It's the server's now.

An idea:

Charity.

I can still apreal, but no real point, but you all have no real reason to divide it up. ZOMGITZsam was on for about 3 days and dig gave him 1mil and you have not split up his stuff, and I had mentioned before about just putting it all in gold in a chest somewhere and the decision was just to leave it be. Also Troll__ lost none of his stuff when banned.  So either way either it stays with my account or noone gets it by your stance then.

Then no one gets it.

Then Everything stays as a frozen state.

Until someone finds your stuff and you've been gone 2 months, yes.

In a village. so they can't get it. Look around at some villages 7+months and not touched.

[Aysun]

After 2 months it's abandoned (if you're the owner of said village and haven't been on) and can be sold.

[Airbongo]

I honestly don't have any problems with Knite getting it. It is a shitload of stuff (villages and money) and I don't think it should be frozen. When Rainy got banned, the server didn't keep the stuff and Cay kept some of it because Rainy gave it to her. I am gonna ask Ako but I think Knite should at least get the money.

[cjm721 (OP)]

After 2 months it's abandoned (if you're the owner of said village and haven't been on) and can be sold.

Well there are plenty of 7+ month villages people have wanted to buy and it was not allowed so no even after 2 months.

[cjm721 (OP)]

After 2 months it's abandoned (if you're the owner of said village and haven't been on) and can be sold.

Also fuzzycotton is still a member of atlantis so if it does not go to knite it would go to him.

[Aysun]

After 2 months it's abandoned (if you're the owner of said village and haven't been on) and can be sold.

Also fuzzycotton is still a member of atlantis so if it does not go to knite it would go to him.

fuzzycotton hasn't been online in a month and 3 days.

[Aysun]

The POINT I am trying to make is that you are not a member of the server any longer and I think you should not have any right to say where your stuff/money goes. I'd be happier to see it frozen.

[SirLogiC]

So I am usually bad at picking up on social politics, and I really don't know what's going on with this.

Here are some things that are clear to me though:

Server quality has degraded since CJ stopped being a server admin.
Some admins and moderators abuse their power, air is the biggest offender.
There has been a disagreement between Cj and some other admins or something (I am guessing air again).
The attitudes of those involved are getting worse

So guys really just let go of your proverbial dicks and calm down. As they say don't burn your bridges.

Cj you are/were a good mod, but dude you gotta calm down a bit, stop being belligerent. Admins you gotta stop provoking him. Just let him have what may be his last wish, don't be so petty about it.

All this childish bickering is making me enjoy this server less and that does concern me.

[cjm721 (OP)]

After 2 months it's abandoned (if you're the owner of said village and haven't been on) and can be sold.

Also fuzzycotton is still a member of atlantis so if it does not go to knite it would go to him.

fuzzycotton hasn't been online in a month and 3 days.

Well considering I seem him almost every day that would not be hard to change.

Also to sir the only part you see of my getting pissed off is about watching I server I played on and help for quite a while fall apart.

[Airbongo]

So I am usually bad at picking up on social politics, and I really don't know what's going on with this.

Here are some things that are clear to me though:

Server quality has degraded since CJ stopped being a server admin.
Some admins and moderators abuse their power, air is the biggest offender.
There has been a disagreement between Cj and some other admins or something (I am guessing air again).
The attitudes of those involved are getting worse

So guys really just let go of your proverbial dicks and calm down. As they say don't burn your bridges.

Cj you are/were a good mod, but dude you gotta calm down a bit, stop being belligerent. Admins you gotta stop provoking him. Just let him have what may be his last wish, don't be so petty about it.

All this childish bickering is making me enjoy this server less and that does concern me.

The fuck? List instances of me being "the biggest offender" and of the admins and mods abusing their power.

[Aysun]

So I am usually bad at picking up on social politics, and I really don't know what's going on with this.

Here are some things that are clear to me though:

Server quality has degraded since CJ stopped being a server admin.
Some admins and moderators abuse their power, air is the biggest offender.
There has been a disagreement between Cj and some other admins or something (I am guessing air again).
The attitudes of those involved are getting worse

So guys really just let go of your proverbial dicks and calm down. As they say don't burn your bridges.

Cj you are/were a good mod, but dude you gotta calm down a bit, stop being belligerent. Admins you gotta stop provoking him. Just let him have what may be his last wish, don't be so petty about it.

All this childish bickering is making me enjoy this server less and that does concern me.

Fact Check:
Server "quality" as in lag/etc? That's due to us being pushed to update to 1.4.6, several of the plugins are still not stable. Other than that, same people are playing, and enjoying themselves on the server.

Abuse of power has been reported but once the situation is looked at it has been cleared.

The disagreement is due to the vast betrayal of trust that CJ did to the other admins/mods.

Our attitudes are worse because we've been harassed by CJ ever since he was removed from staff, finally to the point of banning him.

[Airbongo]

So I am usually bad at picking up on social politics, and I really don't know what's going on with this.

Here are some things that are clear to me though:

Server quality has degraded since CJ stopped being a server admin.
Some admins and moderators abuse their power, air is the biggest offender.
There has been a disagreement between Cj and some other admins or something (I am guessing air again).
The attitudes of those involved are getting worse

So guys really just let go of your proverbial dicks and calm down. As they say don't burn your bridges.

Cj you are/were a good mod, but dude you gotta calm down a bit, stop being belligerent. Admins you gotta stop provoking him. Just let him have what may be his last wish, don't be so petty about it.

All this childish bickering is making me enjoy this server less and that does concern me.

Ok, I want you to give examples of the staff abusing their power and of me BEING the biggest offender.

There has been a disagreement between Cj and some other admins or something (I am guessing air again).
The attitudes of those involved are getting worse

That is just not true, I tried to distance myself from the case since the problem with CJ started so please don't assume if you don't know shit about it.

[cjm721 (OP)]

So I am usually bad at picking up on social politics, and I really don't know what's going on with this.

Here are some things that are clear to me though:

Server quality has degraded since CJ stopped being a server admin.
Some admins and moderators abuse their power, air is the biggest offender.
There has been a disagreement between Cj and some other admins or something (I am guessing air again).
The attitudes of those involved are getting worse

So guys really just let go of your proverbial dicks and calm down. As they say don't burn your bridges.

Cj you are/were a good mod, but dude you gotta calm down a bit, stop being belligerent. Admins you gotta stop provoking him. Just let him have what may be his last wish, don't be so petty about it.

All this childish bickering is making me enjoy this server less and that does concern me.

Fact Check:
Server "quality" as in lag/etc? That's due to us being pushed to update to 1.4.6, several of the plugins are still not stable. Other than that, same people are playing, and enjoying themselves on the server.

Abuse of power has been reported but once the situation is looked at it has been cleared.

The disagreement is due to the vast betrayal of trust that CJ did to the other admins/mods.

Our attitudes are worse because we've been harassed by CJ ever since he was removed from staff, finally to the point of banning him.

Why you update to 1.4.6? We always use to wait.

Also that vast betrayal of trust because I put a way for me to still help the server in case something did happen like the server getting hacked again (which has not happened since I took over the back end btw).

Also just because I was no longer on staff does not mean I don't know what was right and wrong for you to do. So instead of before where I went to the staff member I went public because I was just being disregarded when I directly talked. So how would you feel if something you helped a ton and set up watching the rules we set for ourselves to protect the longevity of the server be broken.

[Aysun]

So I am usually bad at picking up on social politics, and I really don't know what's going on with this.

Here are some things that are clear to me though:

Server quality has degraded since CJ stopped being a server admin.
Some admins and moderators abuse their power, air is the biggest offender.
There has been a disagreement between Cj and some other admins or something (I am guessing air again).
The attitudes of those involved are getting worse

So guys really just let go of your proverbial dicks and calm down. As they say don't burn your bridges.

Cj you are/were a good mod, but dude you gotta calm down a bit, stop being belligerent. Admins you gotta stop provoking him. Just let him have what may be his last wish, don't be so petty about it.

All this childish bickering is making me enjoy this server less and that does concern me.

Fact Check:
Server "quality" as in lag/etc? That's due to us being pushed to update to 1.4.6, several of the plugins are still not stable. Other than that, same people are playing, and enjoying themselves on the server.

Abuse of power has been reported but once the situation is looked at it has been cleared.

The disagreement is due to the vast betrayal of trust that CJ did to the other admins/mods.

Our attitudes are worse because we've been harassed by CJ ever since he was removed from staff, finally to the point of banning him.

Why you update to 1.4.6? We always use to wait.

Also that vast betrayal of trust because I put a way for me to still help the server in case something did happen like the server getting hacked again (which has not happened since I took over the back end btw).

Also just because I was no longer on staff does not mean I don't know what was right and wrong for you to do. So instead of before where I went to the staff member I went public because I was just being disregarded when I directly talked. So how would you feel if something you helped a ton and set up watching the rules we set for ourselves to protect the longevity of the server be broken.

We updated to 1.4.6 because if we hadn't we'd still be waiting. Instead, we listened to the PLAYERS who wanted the update and have got it running (and quite well lately).

No one is disregarding what you did do for the good of the server. However, what you did for YOURSELF was the problem. The server is doing just fine.

Now, this thread has gone completely off topic. I'm going to await Ako's decision.

[Airbongo]

I am waiting for Sirlogic to give me some evidence to backup his comment...

[SirLogiC]

I won't derail thread, making a new post in grievances forum.

[Airbongo]

I won't derail thread, making a new post in grievances forum.

Lovely.