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Offline DermotFTW (OP)

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No keeps agreement
« on: 7 June 2014, 05:24:29 PM »
Accused player(s): ooWIKIoo
Accused of: Breaking an agreement/ scamming
Player(s) effected: DermotFTW
Location: Qualia PVP arena
If in a village, was PVP on or off?: pvp on
Screenshots: Check the chatlogs or something
Brief summary of what happened: We had an agreement for 'no-keeps' PVP, but there was a miss understand and I thought the agreement was for the whole PVP session, ooWIKIoo thought is was for 1 match...
The first match I killed WIKI and gave him his stuff back, then went into the no PVP area on the side of the arena, Catty610 closed the gates and it pushed me into the arena (sounds stupid, but it's the truth)
It was just me and E_M_I_N_E_M and we weren't killing each other. I said no keeps about 3 times in the chat. Wiki then tp'd back with a full set of diamond armour and killed me. When i did catty and WIKI instantly said there was no agreement.

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Re: No keeps agreement
« Reply #1 on: 7 June 2014, 08:28:36 PM »
When anyone walks into the arena, they will see these signs:

I'd say some of this was arguably broken.

Unless WIKI wants to dispute your side of the story, I'm happy to give a verdict in your favour pending another staff member agreeing.








I've added new signs to all 4 entrances (I might change them to say all fights are for keeps by default):
« Last Edit: 7 June 2014, 09:20:16 PM by Akomine »
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Re: No keeps agreement
« Reply #2 on: 7 June 2014, 08:41:06 PM »
tp'ing back with diamond armor after getting owned is douchy. I agree with Ako.
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Re: No keeps agreement
« Reply #3 on: 8 June 2014, 05:42:07 AM »
I was here to witness.

Wiki and dermot made a no keeps battle prior to this fight. They both battled. Then around 5 mins of not fighting. They both entered again. Dermot asked for another no keeps. But wiki never agreed to anything. The previous no keeps was agreed for that spesific battle.


They made a no keeps battle, they finished it fair and square. Later wiki returned, and not in seconds. More around 5 mins. I believe without making an agreement for another no keeps battle. And they battled.

I am correct by, if someone makes a no keeps promise for a fight, it doesn't mean for another fight that they are in mid-battle around 5 mins later. Which wiki didn't agree on on keeps that time.

I hope I just said something what wasn't garbage : P
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Re: No keeps agreement
« Reply #4 on: 8 June 2014, 05:51:14 AM »
By the way, the new rule of all fights are no-keeps, this came into play after what has happened. Do we play by the old rules for this case, due to it being done before these rules, and make sure to be aware of the new rules now?
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Re: No keeps agreement
« Reply #5 on: 8 June 2014, 06:14:00 AM »
Quote from: TheCatsMangler on  8 June 2014, 05:42:07 AM
I was here to witness.

Wiki and dermot made a no keeps battle prior to this fight. They both battled. Then around 5 mins of not fighting. They both entered again. Dermot asked for another no keeps. But wiki never agreed to anything. The previous no keeps was agreed for that spesific battle.


They made a no keeps battle, they finished it fair and square. Later wiki returned, and not in seconds. More around 5 mins. I believe without making an agreement for another no keeps battle. And they battled.

I am correct by, if someone makes a no keeps promise for a fight, it doesn't mean for another fight that they are in mid-battle around 5 mins later. Which wiki didn't agree on on keeps that time.

I hope I just said something what wasn't garbage : P

I didn't want to fight, I never agreed to fight again! I could not get out the arena until I died. I was definitely not standing doing nothing on the outside of the arena for 5 minutes, 5 minutes is over exaggerated. After about 1 minute of being in the arena with E_M_I_N_E_M and saying 'no keeps' incase he tried to kill me, WIKI tp'd back and starting killing me before I could even agree to fight... If you checked the chat at the time you would see that I only agreed to fight him once when he asked for a 'no keeps' fight. I don't mind if i don't get my stuff back... i just want to know that what wiki did was wrong. :(
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Re: No keeps agreement
« Reply #6 on: 8 June 2014, 06:57:53 AM »
Quote from: DermotFTW on  8 June 2014, 06:14:00 AM
I didn't want to fight, I never agreed to fight again! I could not get out the arena until I died. I was definitely not standing doing nothing on the outside of the arena for 5 minutes, 5 minutes is over exaggerated. After about 1 minute of being in the arena with E_M_I_N_E_M and saying 'no keeps' incase he tried to kill me, WIKI tp'd back and starting killing me before I could even agree to fight... If you checked the chat at the time you would see that I only agreed to fight him once when he asked for a 'no keeps' fight. I don't mind if i don't get my stuff back... i just want to know that what wiki did was wrong. :(

I don't know the exact times, but it was defantly more than a single minute. I was watching.

Quote from: DermotFTW on  8 June 2014, 06:14:00 AM
I didn't want to fight

Sorry if I sound rude but, you went in the arena. The place of fighting. If you didn't want to fight, why did you go where people fight?
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Re: No keeps agreement
« Reply #7 on: 8 June 2014, 07:03:20 AM »
Quote from: TheCatsMangler on  8 June 2014, 06:57:53 AM
Quote from: DermotFTW on  8 June 2014, 06:14:00 AM
I didn't want to fight, I never agreed to fight again! I could not get out the arena until I died. I was definitely not standing doing nothing on the outside of the arena for 5 minutes, 5 minutes is over exaggerated. After about 1 minute of being in the arena with E_M_I_N_E_M and saying 'no keeps' incase he tried to kill me, WIKI tp'd back and starting killing me before I could even agree to fight... If you checked the chat at the time you would see that I only agreed to fight him once when he asked for a 'no keeps' fight. I don't mind if i don't get my stuff back... i just want to know that what wiki did was wrong. :(

I don't know the exact times, but it was defantly more than a single minute. I was watching.

Quote from: DermotFTW on  8 June 2014, 06:14:00 AM
I didn't want to fight

Sorry if I sound rude but, you went in the arena. The place of fighting. If you didn't want to fight, why did you go where people fight?

I was on the edge of the arena as I said. When YOU closed the gates I was pushed in... Didn't yo read the report?
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Re: No keeps agreement
« Reply #8 on: 8 June 2014, 07:19:24 AM »
I am going to wait for @Akomine  and other staff members words on the subject.
 
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Re: No keeps agreement
« Reply #9 on: 8 June 2014, 01:06:04 PM »
Ok, I checked the logs and Wiki TP'd back to the arena at least 3 minutes after he died, driven by butthurt after getting owned, he killed Dermot. Dermot said no keeps a couple times but Wiki didn't accept or deny. Even though I think it is pretty fucking gay that Kiwi had to be a little bitch and TP back with diamond armor to kill Dermot, and Catty was an even bigger bitch by closing the gates to facilitate this and I am 90% they were both in a Skype call, no rules were broken. I'm gonna post the log below in case another staff member wants to review the case too, but my verdict is:

No rules broken
Catty= little bitch
Wiki= little bitch

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][06/07/2014 04:00:34 PM (VillageCraft: -177,70,409)] DermotFTW: some potions have gone missing
[][06/07/2014 04:02:13 PM (VillageCraft: -196,71,388)] DermotFTW: No keeps?
[][06/07/2014 04:02:27 PM (VillageCraft: -176,70,367)] hobbes13: nah i dont need them luis gave them to me anywhy
[][06/07/2014 04:03:25 PM (VillageCraft: -170,71,387)] DermotFTW: no keeps?
[][06/07/2014 04:03:42 PM (VillageCraft: -168,71,384)] DermotFTW: laggy
[][06/07/2014 04:03:47 PM (VillageCraft: -171,71,380)] DermotFTW: no keepsss???
[][06/07/2014 04:04:14 PM (VillageCraft: -4108,76,-4492)] DermotFTW: gg
[][06/07/2014 04:04:15 PM (VillageCraft: -4108,76,-4492)] DermotFTW: :(
[][06/07/2014 04:04:30 PM (VillageCraft: 939,99,253)] saxturian:  logged in.
[][06/07/2014 04:04:38 PM (VillageCraft: -363,59,2237)] hobbes13: hi sax
[][06/07/2014 04:04:38 PM (VillageCraft: -4108,76,-4492)] DermotFTW: Stuff please
[][06/07/2014 04:04:43 PM (VillageCraft: 937,99,254)] saxturian: hi
[][06/07/2014 04:04:44 PM (VillageCraft: -157,70,385)] ooWIKIoo: noo
[][06/07/2014 04:04:48 PM (VillageCraft: -176,93,399)] catty610: they never agreed to anything
[][06/07/2014 04:04:54 PM (VillageCraft: -176,71,395)] DermotFTW: we did
[][06/07/2014 04:04:56 PM (VillageCraft: -141,80,375)] ooWIKIoo: no
[][06/07/2014 04:04:56 PM (VillageCraft: -175,71,398)] DermotFTW: haha
[][06/07/2014 04:05:05 PM (VillageCraft: -140,82,371)] ooWIKIoo: you said no keeps we never said yes
[][06/07/2014 04:05:27 PM (VillageCraft: -174,71,410)] DermotFTW: That was now
[][06/07/2014 04:05:14 PM (VillageCraft: -174,71,410)] DermotFTW: I have a screen shot
[][06/07/2014 04:05:18 PM (VillageCraft: -142,77,359)] ooWIKIoo: of earlier
[][06/07/2014 04:05:21 PM (VillageCraft: -142,77,359)] ooWIKIoo: not now
[][06/07/2014 04:05:24 PM (VillageCraft: -176,93,398)] catty610: You never said it of now
[][06/07/2014 04:05:26 PM (VillageCraft: -142,77,359)] ooWIKIoo: catty is a witness
[][06/07/2014 04:05:31 PM (VillageCraft: -171,73,409)] DermotFTW: SCAMMERS
[][06/07/2014 04:05:32 PM (VillageCraft: -142,77,359)] ooWIKIoo: no it wasnt
[][06/07/2014 04:05:33 PM (VillageCraft: -175,93,397)] catty610: No it wasn't
[][06/07/2014 04:05:41 PM (VillageCraft: -171,73,409)] DermotFTW: IT WAS NOW
[][06/07/2014 04:05:45 PM (VillageCraft: -145,79,350)] ooWIKIoo: no it wasnt
[][06/07/2014 04:05:49 PM (VillageCraft: -171,73,409)] DermotFTW: because we never did pvp
[][06/07/2014 04:05:51 PM (VillageCraft: -144,79,350)] ooWIKIoo: you killed me before remember?
[][06/07/2014 04:05:56 PM (VillageCraft: -171,73,409)] DermotFTW: nope
[][06/07/2014 04:05:57 PM (VillageCraft: -140,85,344)] ooWIKIoo: dragon egg
[][06/07/2014 04:06:01 PM (VillageCraft: -139,86,342)] ooWIKIoo: i had remember
[][06/07/2014 04:06:08 PM (VillageCraft: -173,72,410)] DermotFTW: we didn't stop doing pvp
[][06/07/2014 04:06:12 PM (VillageCraft: -164,73,409)] DermotFTW: urgh
[][06/07/2014 04:06:13 PM (VillageCraft: -123,94,316)] ooWIKIoo: ye we did
[][06/07/2014 04:06:13 PM (VillageCraft: -333,63,2159)] hobbes13: hey luis did u complete the achievement where u find all the biomes yet?
[][06/07/2014 04:06:16 PM (VillageCraft: -176,93,398)] catty610: No it works per kill
[][06/07/2014 04:06:20 PM (VillageCraft: -1296,101,-90487)] luisc99: not yet
[][06/07/2014 04:06:22 PM (VillageCraft: -176,93,398)] catty610: you stopped for a time inbetween
[][06/07/2014 04:06:23 PM (VillageCraft: -164,73,409)] DermotFTW: Lusic?
[][06/07/2014 04:06:23 PM (VillageCraft: -30579,69,17918)] OctoGamer: we working on it hobbes lol
[][06/07/2014 04:06:28 PM (VillageCraft: -176,93,398)] catty610: and then started
[][06/07/2014 04:06:37 PM (VillageCraft: -155,73,400)] DermotFTW: CAn i just have my stuff
[][06/07/2014 04:06:40 PM (VillageCraft: 917,101,271)] saxturian: luis is an admin
[][06/07/2014 04:06:41 PM (VillageCraft: -42,69,256)] ooWIKIoo: no
[][06/07/2014 04:06:41 PM (VillageCraft: -332,63,2160)] hobbes13: how many have u been too guys?
[][06/07/2014 04:06:43 PM (VillageCraft: 924,100,265)] saxturian: ?
[][06/07/2014 04:06:47 PM (VillageCraft: -154,73,395)] DermotFTW: Some retard closed the gates
[][06/07/2014 04:06:57 PM (VillageCraft: -18,67,212)] ooWIKIoo: *catty is no retard
[][06/07/2014 04:07:06 PM (VillageCraft: -163,73,409)] DermotFTW: Catty is a gai boi
[][06/07/2014 04:07:08 PM (VillageCraft: -163,73,409)] DermotFTW: OMG CATTY
[][06/07/2014 04:07:12 PM (VillageCraft: -176,93,397)] catty610: what did I do wrong?
[][06/07/2014 04:07:17 PM (VillageCraft: -320,63,2154)] hobbes13: can i help guys
[][06/07/2014 04:07:22 PM (VillageCraft: -164,73,409)] DermotFTW: Closed the gates.. and i got pushed into the arena!
[][06/07/2014 04:07:27 PM (VillageCraft: 928,99,254)] saxturian: luis
[][06/07/2014 04:07:32 PM (VillageCraft: 928,99,254)] saxturian: u b admin?
[][06/07/2014 04:07:36 PM (VillageCraft: -166,73,409)] DermotFTW: you all planned this coz as soon as i died you said they was no agreement!
[][06/07/2014 04:07:43 PM (VillageCraft: -812,79,-90875)] luisc99: No, I be sys admin ;)
[][06/07/2014 04:07:52 PM (VillageCraft: -175,70,405)] DermotFTW: imma report anyway aee what the admins say
[][06/07/2014 04:07:52 PM (VillageCraft: 133,63,62)] ooWIKIoo: no that agreement was from earlier
[][06/07/2014 04:07:58 PM (VillageCraft: 923,99,242)] saxturian: ermigersh u get upgrade in head ha;;
[][06/07/2014 04:08:03 PM (VillageCraft: 923,99,242)] saxturian: hall
[][06/07/2014 04:08:15 PM (VillageCraft: -176,70,407)] DermotFTW: I thought there was an agreement
[][06/07/2014 04:08:19 PM (VillageCraft: 205,70,54)] ooWIKIoo: nope
[][06/07/2014 04:08:22 PM (VillageCraft: -176,70,407)] DermotFTW: and i wouldn't of done it other wise
[][06/07/2014 04:08:27 PM (VillageCraft: -176,70,407)] DermotFTW: Reporting.
[][06/07/2014 04:08:29 PM (VillageCraft: -313,67,2145)] hobbes13: hey octo u finised all the achievments but the where u find all the biomes?
[][06/07/2014 04:08:31 PM (VillageCraft: -51,133,387)] catty610: Go ahead
1][06/07/2014 04:08:36 PM (VillageCraft: 267,64,26)] ooWIKIoo: Go ahead
[][06/07/2014 04:08:3
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