I asked you this and obviously you ignored it. I ask you again:
I asked you two questions and as usual you ignored them. How does heaven equate to universe in your head and will you ever address your shitpoints ako and luis disproved. Answer those questions now.
As usual, I answered them within the posts, and you haven't bothered to check. Here they are again, for your convenience:
I don't know, maybe the reference of the universe as the heavens in literature hasn't rung a bell yet?
Second definition of the heavens on Google: (literary)
the sky, especially perceived as a vault in which the sun, moon, stars, and planets are situated.
One of the synonyms listed for it is space. You're welcome.
If I don't further press on, consider yourself as successfully having countered the argument.
REALIZATION: I may have accidentally deleted the second one while typing on my phone, as I couldn't find it.
Says the weed-smoking Mexican
Now to wait on Ako.
Lmao you ignored one of my questions again, you dishonest idiot. Are you gonna address the shit you posted that ako and luis disproved? Also, I highly doubt the Arabic translation even means anything close to it, but you don't consider that because you are a brain washed fool.
Why do I need to address what's already been disproved? That's like you saying the sky is purple, I respond that it's blue due to particles in the air reflecting blue light, you not pressing on further and thus acknowledging my response, and then me telling you to further talk.
As for you doubting the translation, that's your problem. Stop accusing me of being a liar. Name ONE piece of evidence I have fabricated (as in quoting something that was never stated in the Quran).
In any matter, I'm not brainwashed. You, however, have an uncontrollable desire to insult me by jumping on whatever chance you get. You essentially accomplish nothing by doing so.
You have to address those points because they were your main evidence. Also, you are a liar and dishonest because you've been putting words in our mouths and more importantly, like I already explained but you seem to ignore it, you cherry pick what you want to reply to and ignore what you can't debate. As for the insults, you've earned my disrespect and I will continue to insult you because this thread is like beating a dead horse. You will continue being dishonest, won't recognise when you are wrong, etc.
1. I have addressed the "cherry-picking". I tried to respond to your points collectively and indirectly, which I have already clarified, but you keep refusing to acknowledge. That is your fault, not mine.
2. You refusing to acknowledge the clarifications makes the entire problem yours.
"REALIZATION: I may have accidentally deleted the second one while typing on my phone, as I couldn't find it."
sure, you "deleted it" you never had it in the first place. stop lying.
Oh, so you magically know what I type before I post?
Yeah I agree Livid.
Air just said everything I wanted to say. I don't want to respond to this thread anymore. Ender is one of the most dishonest people I've ever conversed with, and I think that has been well established at this point. I see no reason to participate any further. It isn't worth it with the way he behaves.
On the upside, he asked me a real question about my evidence requirement instead of just shoving words in my mouth. On the downside, my patience has already run out. I'm fed up with him and his dishonesty. The pseudo science is fun and easy to debunk, but the never ending dishonest bullshit is just too much. And when we point it out, he just ignores it like nothing ever happened! We get frustrated when he keeps putting words in our mouths (which is a form of LYING, Ender), someone calls him out again and insults him and then he accuses THEM of bringing down the level of debate!? For fucks sakes man. I'm done.
3. I lost interest in this debate far earlier than you did.
4. I say that you don't believe in God, and then you accuse me of putting words in your mouth. What the hell??
I state that you don't believe in God, which is true, but you're accusing me of putting words in your mouth? Was it because I said "and you know it"? What are you trying to imply here?
And again, what are your criteria for deciding whether a God exists?
5. Once I ask you this, you instantly lose interest all of a sudden? Since you seem to think you have the right to demand answers, as an equal participant in this "debate", I demand that you do the same.
I'd like to ask you this: What are your criteria for deciding whether a God exists, and how do you know that these criteria are correct? Until you can have confidence that you have the correct criteria, it is useless to begin investigating God's existence.
6. Despite me clarifying everything you assumed was "dishonest" and apologizing for making it seem so, you go on to call me dishonest (which has been clarified), falsified information (which is a lie), and cherry-picking (which was clarified long ago and ignored completely). And you say I'M dishonest?
7. You've debunked a lot of information I've put up. You have not debunked everything, however. Stop acting that way.
7a. I'm still waiting on this:
How did the Quran know about the universe's expansion? I don't recall the ancient Greeks knowing about this.
Verse: "And it is We (God) who have constructed the heaven (universe) with might, and verily, it is We who are steadily expanding it." (51:47)
If I'm correct, I think it was Alexander Friedmann and Georges Lemaitre who first theoretically calculated that the universe is constantly expanding.
8. No matter how much you deny it, YOU turned this into a playground insult match. For logic's sake, look at the freaking page history. Hmm, I wonder who started the stupid insults? Could it have been, I don't know, you?
