#PrayforIstanbul

[Die_Endermen]

come on guys this thread is meant for hating on ender not die.

@OctoGamer the haters r just jealous how lit my forum signature is

[Airbongo]

come on guys this thread is meant for hating on ender not die.

@OctoGamer the haters r just jealous how lit my forum signature is

Your signature is cancer.

[Lividup64]

I don't drink alcohol but if it is in food, most of the tipsy features are gone so it doesn't matter. Also, don't ever speak for  example you ugly Turk.

[Akomine]

Why not drink alcohol though? You're basically ISIS if you don't.

[Lividup64]

Why not drink alcohol though? You're basically ISIS if you don't.

Of course, sober people are much more able to accurately decapitate infidelic invaders.

[BLUEJACKET333]

dang this is brutal, I would infer to another translation to see if it varies as an old covenant teaching but I realized theres no Jeus in the quran lol. I would be skeptical but the verses are so damn clear lol

[EnderEssence]

Why not drink alcohol though? You're basically ISIS if you don't.

Of course, sober people are much more able to accurately decapitate infidelic invaders.

Exactly. On top of that, it's much easier to distinguish that ISIS terrorists' actions are based on mentality issues and not from being drunk.

I don't drink alcohol but if it is in food, most of the tipsy features are gone so it doesn't matter. Also, don't ever speak for  example you ugly Turk.

I don't see how saying something makes me ugly. It still matters if alcohol is in food. Just because you can't get drunk off of it doesn't mean you can still ingest it. That's like saying it's okay for oil from pig fat to be on your food just because you can't distinguish it from any other animal fat's oil. Well, unless you didn't know it was there, but knowingly consuming the stuff is another story altogether.

On a side note, alcohol's pretty harmful anyway, so that's a plus for being forbidden from drinking it.

[Akomine]

dang this is brutal, I would infer to another translation to see if it varies as an old covenant teaching but I realized theres no Jeus in the quran lol. I would be skeptical but the verses are so damn clear lol

Jesus is in the Quran, his name is translated to Isa.

It still matters if alcohol is in food. Just because you can't get drunk off of it doesn't mean you can still ingest it. That's like saying it's okay for oil from pig fat to be on your food just because you can't distinguish it from any other animal fat's oil. Well, unless you didn't know it was there, but knowingly consuming the stuff is another story altogether.

On a side note, alcohol's pretty harmful anyway, so that's a plus for being forbidden from drinking it.

Why is it forbidden?

[Lividup64]

How dare you call me a pork eating kafir. Do you know how hard it is to find a wrap that doesn't have alcohol based vinegar in it,  do you? I don't eat them regularly but if I didn't have lunch I don't have much choice. So shut up you stupid extremist.

[EnderEssence]

How dare you call me a pork eating kafir. Do you know how hard it is to find a wrap that doesn't have alcohol based vinegar in it,  do you? I don't eat them regularly but if I didn't have lunch I don't have much choice. So shut up you stupid extremist.

I made a comparison, I didn't call you someone who ate pork, fool. And as for your wrap claim, it's as simple as asking for a wrap without vinegar in it.

Btw I'm sure that there are more Bengali terrorists than Turkish ones. Don't quote me on that, but I'm 85% sure.

dang this is brutal, I would infer to another translation to see if it varies as an old covenant teaching but I realized theres no Jeus in the quran lol. I would be skeptical but the verses are so damn clear lol

Jesus is in the Quran, his name is translated to Isa.

It still matters if alcohol is in food. Just because you can't get drunk off of it doesn't mean you can still ingest it. That's like saying it's okay for oil from pig fat to be on your food just because you can't distinguish it from any other animal fat's oil. Well, unless you didn't know it was there, but knowingly consuming the stuff is another story altogether.

On a side note, alcohol's pretty harmful anyway, so that's a plus for being forbidden from drinking it.

Why is it forbidden?

First quote response: Yes, that is true.
Second quote response: A lot of stuff are forbidden due to the harmful effects they have on the human body (blood, carrion, pork, etc.). You can't really argue in defense of alcohol's limited benefits due to the vast majority of said benefits coming from the fruits used to create the alcohol in their pre-alcohol states.

Not to neglect to mention that getting drunk can cause one to do a lot of messed up things that are otherwise risky and dangerous.

[Lividup64]

How dare you call me a pork eating kafir. Do you know how hard it is to find a wrap that doesn't have alcohol based vinegar in it,  do you? I don't eat them regularly but if I didn't have lunch I don't have much choice. So shut up you stupid extremist.

I made a comparison, I didn't call you someone who ate pork, fool. And as for your wrap claim, it's as simple as asking for a wrap without vinegar in it.

Btw I'm sure that there are more Bengali terrorists than Turkish ones. Don't quote me on that, but I'm 85% sure.

dang this is brutal, I would infer to another translation to see if it varies as an old covenant teaching but I realized theres no Jeus in the quran lol. I would be skeptical but the verses are so damn clear lol

Jesus is in the Quran, his name is translated to Isa.

It still matters if alcohol is in food. Just because you can't get drunk off of it doesn't mean you can still ingest it. That's like saying it's okay for oil from pig fat to be on your food just because you can't distinguish it from any other animal fat's oil. Well, unless you didn't know it was there, but knowingly consuming the stuff is another story altogether.

On a side note, alcohol's pretty harmful anyway, so that's a plus for being forbidden from drinking it.

Why is it forbidden?

First quote response: Yes, that is true.
Second quote response: A lot of stuff are forbidden due to the harmful effects they have on the human body (blood, carrion, pork, etc.). You can't really argue in defense of alcohol's limited benefits due to the vast majority of said benefits coming from the fruits used to create the alcohol in their pre-alcohol states.

Not to neglect to mention that getting drunk can cause one to do a lot of messed up things that are otherwise risky and dangerous.

It's not that simple if I'm buying them from Sainsbury

[EnderEssence]

How dare you call me a pork eating kafir. Do you know how hard it is to find a wrap that doesn't have alcohol based vinegar in it,  do you? I don't eat them regularly but if I didn't have lunch I don't have much choice. So shut up you stupid extremist.

I made a comparison, I didn't call you someone who ate pork, fool. And as for your wrap claim, it's as simple as asking for a wrap without vinegar in it.

Btw I'm sure that there are more Bengali terrorists than Turkish ones. Don't quote me on that, but I'm 85% sure.

dang this is brutal, I would infer to another translation to see if it varies as an old covenant teaching but I realized theres no Jeus in the quran lol. I would be skeptical but the verses are so damn clear lol

Jesus is in the Quran, his name is translated to Isa.

It still matters if alcohol is in food. Just because you can't get drunk off of it doesn't mean you can still ingest it. That's like saying it's okay for oil from pig fat to be on your food just because you can't distinguish it from any other animal fat's oil. Well, unless you didn't know it was there, but knowingly consuming the stuff is another story altogether.

On a side note, alcohol's pretty harmful anyway, so that's a plus for being forbidden from drinking it.

Why is it forbidden?

First quote response: Yes, that is true.
Second quote response: A lot of stuff are forbidden due to the harmful effects they have on the human body (blood, carrion, pork, etc.). You can't really argue in defense of alcohol's limited benefits due to the vast majority of said benefits coming from the fruits used to create the alcohol in their pre-alcohol states.

Not to neglect to mention that getting drunk can cause one to do a lot of messed up things that are otherwise risky and dangerous.

It's not that simple if I'm buying them from Sainsbury

Couldn't you just ask for a wrap without vinegar? At the very least, can't you ask for a full list of ingredients of a particular wrap/food item in general? I know for a fact that places like Panera Bread, Pizza Hut, McDonald's (even though I don't even eat there, everything's crap), etc. let you do this.

EDIT: Checked to see that Sainsbury's is a market chain in the UK and not a restaurant. In that case, why not ask an employee to check for non-vinegar alternatives?

[Lividup64]

How dare you call me a pork eating kafir. Do you know how hard it is to find a wrap that doesn't have alcohol based vinegar in it,  do you? I don't eat them regularly but if I didn't have lunch I don't have much choice. So shut up you stupid extremist.

I made a comparison, I didn't call you someone who ate pork, fool. And as for your wrap claim, it's as simple as asking for a wrap without vinegar in it.

Btw I'm sure that there are more Bengali terrorists than Turkish ones. Don't quote me on that, but I'm 85% sure.

dang this is brutal, I would infer to another translation to see if it varies as an old covenant teaching but I realized theres no Jeus in the quran lol. I would be skeptical but the verses are so damn clear lol

Jesus is in the Quran, his name is translated to Isa.

It still matters if alcohol is in food. Just because you can't get drunk off of it doesn't mean you can still ingest it. That's like saying it's okay for oil from pig fat to be on your food just because you can't distinguish it from any other animal fat's oil. Well, unless you didn't know it was there, but knowingly consuming the stuff is another story altogether.

On a side note, alcohol's pretty harmful anyway, so that's a plus for being forbidden from drinking it.

Why is it forbidden?

First quote response: Yes, that is true.
Second quote response: A lot of stuff are forbidden due to the harmful effects they have on the human body (blood, carrion, pork, etc.). You can't really argue in defense of alcohol's limited benefits due to the vast majority of said benefits coming from the fruits used to create the alcohol in their pre-alcohol states.

Not to neglect to mention that getting drunk can cause one to do a lot of messed up things that are otherwise risky and dangerous.

It's not that simple if I'm buying them from Sainsbury

Couldn't you just ask for a wrap without vinegar? At the very least, can't you ask for a full list of ingredients of a particular wrap/food item in general? I know for a fact that places like Panera Bread, Pizza Hut, McDonald's (even though I don't even eat there, everything's crap), etc. let you do this.

Prepacked. I don't eat them regularly but only if I don't have much choice.

[Akomine]

Is that actually the reason or is that you just saying that's the reason?

What are pork's harmful effects?



Also, is Livid not a real Muslim because he sometimes eats things that are forbidden?

[EnderEssence]

Is that actually the reason or is that you just saying that's the reason?

What are pork's harmful effects?



Also, is Livid not a real Muslim because he sometimes eats things that are forbidden?

1. That's basically the reasons in a nutshell. Alcohol's forbidden due to both its harmful effects on the human body and the state of drunkenness can cause one to do many risky and dangerous things that lead to disobeying God.

2. This link right here has some useful stuff (includes both the harmful effects of pork but also includes the cruelty behind the packaging of the meat): http://www.rodalesorganiclife.com/wellbeing/10-scary-reasons-why-you-should-never-buy-conventional-pork

3. No, I never said Livid wasn't a real Muslim. Just gave a quick helpful tip to help a guy out.

[Airbongo]

I thought both livid and ender lived in the UK

[Akomine]

Those seem more like harmful effects of bacteria and poor regulations. The US is a complete mess when it comes to animal farming.

Anyways,
Why pork specifically? Seems so random. Why not beef? Why not X? Why not Y? More importantly, why not Z?
The link you supplied is okay-ish, though I do strongly support eating organic and local. Number 7 on it is retardedly stupid. By that logic, we shouldn't eat broccoli or bananas. I won't fault you for that though, just clickbaity, sensationalistic trashy writing. I also find you giving modern reasons a bit odd. I was curious the ancient reasons, if any. It's my assumption that ancient pork was likely more likely to have parasites, people frequently got sick, so it was banned in the religion. If so, you'd think eating modern, clean, organic pork would be okay.


About the real Muslim thing, why is he still a real Muslim? He did something that is forbidden. You said ISIS militants aren't real Muslims because they did something forbidden, so why not Livid too?

I thought both livid and ender lived in the UK

Nah Ender is from merica (and thus is statistically much more likely to be a non-radical Muslim, interestingly).

[Lividup64]

Well I didn't drink it, I just ate something with red wine vinegar. I'm not even sure if it even has any alcohol left after being given cooked.

Edit: Just read up that in a Hadith it says that vinegars are halal noting it's alcoholic contents.

[Airbongo]

Well I didn't drink it, I just ate something with red wine vinegar. I'm not even sure if it even has any alcohol left after being given cooked.

Edit: Just read up that in a Hadith it says that vinegars are halal noting it's alcoholic contents.

You're a shit muslim for consuming vinegar.

[Akomine]

Fucking apostate

[Lividup64]

Prophet say it Halal. ):

[Airbongo]

Luuul letting an ancient prophet decide what you eat, absolutely and insanely fucked up.

[Die_Endermen]

@Airbongus Van Winkledorf

I wish that I could time travel back to the day that you were born on and force your dad to put on a condom.

Same goes for @Witchdoctor1 , a shitty poster who likes every single one of air's comments and who's rude for no reason even though I've been ignoring him for the past what... a year?

I'd rather kill myself than commit suicide, agreed @Akomine ?
lol not my tweet

[Airbongo]

Holy fuck you're annoying. Grow up already you dumb cunt.

[OctoGamer]

Happy 1 year anniversary to VC's worst thread.

[PengBunny]

i think VC's worst thread is the one by Rexey to MossyPaws

it's some good shit

[Akomine]

So, got any evidence YET, @EnderEssence ?

Like, your best piece of evidence. Not chewed gum this time please.

[Airbongo]

So, got any evidence YET, @EnderEssence ?

Like, your best piece of evidence. Not chewed gum this time please.

Rekt

[EnderEssence]

So, got any evidence YET, @EnderEssence ?

Like, your best piece of evidence. Not chewed gum this time please.

This is old af, I think I did happen to ask you a few questions on page 8 or something that you never got around to answering though.

I will admit that I lost this, but I did learn a good deal about debating as a result.

Thanks Ako.

[Akomine]

So, got any evidence YET, @EnderEssence ?

Like, your best piece of evidence. Not chewed gum this time please.

This is old af, I think I did happen to ask you a few questions on page 8 or something that you never got around to answering though.

I will admit that I lost this, but I did learn a good deal about debating as a result.

Thanks Ako.

If I never answered something it's because you were being so dishonest that I got frustrated and refused.

I am shocked to see you admit you lost this, and glad. Thanks for admitting that.

What did you learn about debating?

[EnderEssence]

So, got any evidence YET, @EnderEssence ?

Like, your best piece of evidence. Not chewed gum this time please.

This is old af, I think I did happen to ask you a few questions on page 8 or something that you never got around to answering though.

I will admit that I lost this, but I did learn a good deal about debating as a result.

Thanks Ako.

If I never answered something it's because you were being so dishonest that I got frustrated and refused.

I am shocked to see you admit you lost this, and glad. Thanks for admitting that.

What did you learn about debating?

1. Don't get baited into using Russel's Teapot arguments.

2. Don't get yourself into a position in which you inevitably keep making more claims without taking the time to prepare a decent argument with evidence. If there's anything that I learned from this that I'd consider the most important, it's this. Never make claims without evidence.

3. Don't overlook things that can be solved with common sense (i.e: I didn't think the water in living creatures one through).

4. Don't debate Ako, as he will always find holes in your arguments and then proceed to hammer the living damn out of you.

Might update this in the near future as I keep finding so many things I did wrong lmao